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Re: Multiple FAC and/or SGC holders in the same house
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:02 pm
by Ian
My wife and I have mirrored FAC and SGCs. Easy to administer and understand, what is on one is on the other.
The only downside is that the police count the guns twice on their statistics. I wonder how many 'ghost' guns exist in the UK gun totals like half of ours.
Re: Multiple FAC and/or SGC holders in the same house
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:13 pm
by Activ8
I have an FAC/SGC & my wife does too, however... My FAC allows me to buy what's on my certificate, but my wife's only allows her to use what's on mine. She can however buy her own ammunition & has fully access to the cabinate.
So I guess A. We're under GMP.
Re: Multiple FAC and/or SGC holders in the same house
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:46 am
by gordocar
My wife and I both have FACs and share a safe
We have 2 rifles each one small bore and one full bore and look after a club full bore
My wife has the club rifle on her certificate
There is no mirroring or conditions on either certificate
Lancashire
Re: Multiple FAC and/or SGC holders in the same house
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:54 am
by Christel
If both have the same rifles on their FAC then surely that is a hassle when a variation is submitted?
Re: Multiple FAC and/or SGC holders in the same house
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:21 pm
by Activ8
christel wrote:If both have the same rifles on their FAC then surely that is a hassle when a variation is submitted?
Funnily enough, we were discussing this last night. By my thinking if I want to add a variation then I'll have to send my wife's in also, but does that mean I'll have to pay £40 rather than £20? I'm assuming so, but something I need to check up on.
Re: Multiple FAC and/or SGC holders in the same house
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:02 am
by Christel
Yes, double expense.
Why is it that some police areas decide to do this? No wonder they are behind with paperwork
Re: Multiple FAC and/or SGC holders in the same house
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:21 am
by Mattnall
It is so much easier to have a condition that states;
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That way any of the FAC holders can vary or acquire as they wish and everyone else in the chain is automatically covered.
Re: Multiple FAC and/or SGC holders in the same house
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:45 am
by Christel
Mattnall wrote:It is so much easier to have a condition that states;
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That way any of the FAC holders can vary or acquire as they wish and everyone else in the chain is automatically covered.
Which is the way it is in Beds/Herts...however I am just wondering what is accomplished by doing it the mirrored way?
Are our FEOs/decision makers really that insecure in the way they deal with FAC/SGC holders (perhaps due to public perception and that most of the official blurb is guidance and not law) that they invent these archaic rules that will only add to the work load and the paper pile.
Honestly
Re: Multiple FAC and/or SGC holders in the same house
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:07 am
by kennyc
christel wrote:Mattnall wrote:It is so much easier to have a condition that states;
.
That way any of the FAC holders can vary or acquire as they wish and everyone else in the chain is automatically covered.
Which is the way it is in Beds/Herts...however I am just wondering what is accomplished by doing it the mirrored way?
Are our FEOs/decision makers really that insecure in the way they deal with FAC/SGC holders (perhaps due to public perception and that most of the official blurb is guidance and not law) that they invent these archaic rules that will only add to the work load and the paper pile.
Honestly
patently the answer is YES!
Re: Multiple FAC and/or SGC holders in the same house
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:23 am
by Mattnall
christel wrote:
Which is the way it is in Beds/Herts...however I am just wondering what is accomplished by doing it the mirrored way?
Yes, I'm in Beds and Herts, and they have always been a very understanding force, both when it was Herts only and now the two have combined. Hope it stays a great department when Cambs come onboard.