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Mine was in un-issued condition and came with a SUSAT, Iron sights an RG Mag and also an LEI Picatinny rail. It was significantly more than 2K but less than the price quoted in this thread. http://www.full-bore.co.uk/viewtopic.ph ... &hilit=l98 At the end of the day it depends on how many people are looking to buy one at the time that it's put up for sale, these rifles don't come up very often and because of their rarity can attract a premium.

I love my rifle, despite all of its shortcomings and I'd never sell it.

DavidTS has one too doesn't he?

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Well apparently it was assembled from roadway green parts by a guy who brought up all their old stock? It has a new barrel and receiver with a very low round count , iron sights and susat, sling and cleaning kit and mags but not RG mags .

It truly is immaculate as is all my buddies kit

Thanks for all your answers so far

I'll give him a tenner for it, old RG scrap is worthless, honest.......

Gaz wrote:I'll give him a tenner for it, old RG scrap is worthless, honest.......

Come on, admit Gaz, you wan't one. Your Army Cadet days are flooding back to you.

Silly question from a Johnny Foreigner, but why was it made straight-pull & not semi-auto in the first place ?

froggy wrote:Silly question from a Johnny Foreigner, but why was it made straight-pull & not semi-auto in the first place ?

Take a seat froggy, its a long one. Essentially Pre 1988 they used to let cadets use practically anything including full autos and SLR's (though full auto use on a sterling was discourages, once had someone tell me they were ballocked once for doing that).

Anyway Post 88 act and center fire semis going into section 5 it was thought that being a civilian Organization with mere military links rather than full incorporation it would be illegal to use anything section 5 (not withstanding the previous use of full autos that still continued). Anyway it turned out that the use of center fire semis ban allowed an exemption for all the cadet forces...... They just didn't act on it for years (I believe when the second gulf war started the British army was even taking back LSW's for use that they had given to cadet forces due to how little they had prepared in a crap attempt at trying to not let anyone know there was a build up to invasion and the results showed afterwards). A few years back the straight pulls were replaced/modded to be like semi auto versions of the SA80A1's (minus the bayonet lug, apparently some cadets actually went and made private bayonet purchases and someone got hurt, H&S crap later, you get the picture, what a world we live in ).

Or it could have been for other reasons, but a misunderstanding of the legislation is the story often told to me froggy. Anyway some Cadet GP straight pulls do go up for sale (once again rarer than the Lucky Charm farting Unicorn ). In this instance it sounds like a builder got a hold of remaining stock and built some, so were "new" so to speak. Its debated at this stage whether it could be worth more than a genuine cadet used rifle or that the low round count makes for a better buy.

Once anyone else can add to my ramblings, I hope you enjoyed my tale mon amie Froggy.

Edit: The origins of alot of Cadet GP straight pulls plus the exact reason for them existing is debatable. I'm just relaying a story I've heard perpetuated throughout the Net. I've even heard stories of some Canadian export models being bought by US residents and turned into Semi auto clones (semi auto SA80's do exist in the US but in small numbers from a late 80's batch).

Merci very much for taking time to answer my question in this most comprehensive manner Monsieur le Roastbeef
It now kinda make more sense if the structure is not a military outfit . I did not realised the UK cadet force is not part of the armed forces unlike our French "Preparation Militaire" manned by reserve personnel.

froggy wrote:Merci very much for taking time to answer my question in this most comprehensive manner Monsieur le Roastbeef
It now kinda make more sense if the structure is not a military outfit . I did not realised the UK cadet force is not part of the armed forces unlike our French "Preparation Militaire" manned by reserve personnel.

the Cadet forces were actually founded by a Victorian Philanthropist called Octavia Hill and the aim was to instill discipline in young boys from what I believe she viewed as backgrounds that needed it. Like I said the exemption to use section 5 has been there, its just the 88 act combined with some (very likely) penny pinching to have straight pulls rather than a semi auto. That changed though it took years. On a side note I believe the Australian Cadets only very rarely use 5.56 versions of their Augs and mostly use them with 22lr conversion kits in (citation needed here ).

Some go from Cadets to the forces but it has no bearing on the career they follow in said forces.