Then and now.
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Re: Then and now.
Getting back to the OP...
...a few weeks back I was on Century Range at Bisley shooting a TR comp...all afternoon the forces (looked like teams from all services and some European too) were using Butt 19 (so the same range as us civvies) for some sort of running forward comp shooting at figure 11s...they were all using various 5.56s on fully auto (or possibly 3 round bursts?), and it was amazing how little noise/disruption it was causing; in fact, as interesting as it was I kept forgetting it was going on - I also noticed that the sand splash was minimal, despite the auto fire...
...and it did cross my mind at the time that had they been using Brens it would have been a lot more 'noticeable'.
...a few weeks back I was on Century Range at Bisley shooting a TR comp...all afternoon the forces (looked like teams from all services and some European too) were using Butt 19 (so the same range as us civvies) for some sort of running forward comp shooting at figure 11s...they were all using various 5.56s on fully auto (or possibly 3 round bursts?), and it was amazing how little noise/disruption it was causing; in fact, as interesting as it was I kept forgetting it was going on - I also noticed that the sand splash was minimal, despite the auto fire...
...and it did cross my mind at the time that had they been using Brens it would have been a lot more 'noticeable'.
Re: Then and now.
Yes, when I went from shooting a 308 bolt the 223 vz58 I could not believe how little recoil there was.Dougan wrote:Getting back to the OP...
...a few weeks back I was on Century Range at Bisley shooting a TR comp...all afternoon the forces (looked like teams from all services and some European too) were using Butt 19 (so the same range as us civvies) for some sort of running forward comp shooting at figure 11s...they were all using various 5.56s on fully auto (or possibly 3 round bursts?), and it was amazing how little noise/disruption it was causing; in fact, as interesting as it was I kept forgetting it was going on - I also noticed that the sand splash was minimal, despite the auto fire...
...and it did cross my mind at the time that had they been using Brens it would have been a lot more 'noticeable'.
Re: Then and now.
The .303 is definaetly not a factory round.
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Re: Then and now.
You do realise Crisps real surname was Pratt???Sixshot6 wrote:Dougan wrote:Well there's been a couple of different 'milspec' .303s since it began, but all the copper jacketed ones, milspec or factory, are seated significantly deeper than the one in the picture.
Safety...apologies for 'derailing' the thread...I didn't mean to be picky; it was just the first thing I thought of when I saw the picture...
And I'm sorry for sharing my little ditty as well. I'm trying to become a raconteur and getting art of telling a story right is hard. I'm a long way off Quinten Crisp. To be fair Dougan when my dad hand loads he uses Richard Lee's book and I half suspect for 303 Lee had the "Milspecs" of one sort or another in mind.


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Re: Then and now.
You learn something new everyday.snayperskaya wrote:You do realise Crisps real surname was Pratt???Sixshot6 wrote:Dougan wrote:Well there's been a couple of different 'milspec' .303s since it began, but all the copper jacketed ones, milspec or factory, are seated significantly deeper than the one in the picture.
Safety...apologies for 'derailing' the thread...I didn't mean to be picky; it was just the first thing I thought of when I saw the picture...
And I'm sorry for sharing my little ditty as well. I'm trying to become a raconteur and getting art of telling a story right is hard. I'm a long way off Quinten Crisp. To be fair Dougan when my dad hand loads he uses Richard Lee's book and I half suspect for 303 Lee had the "Milspecs" of one sort or another in mind.![]()
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Re: Then and now.
yes it is.Alpha1 wrote:The .303 is definaetly not a factory round.
I bought 80 in two sealed packs, each containing two boxes of 20. I've never had any other 303 of any kind, inert or otherwise in my possession.
Re: Then and now.
Shooting the 5.56 is almost unfair, it is so easy to hit with it. Very little fuss or drama, just point and squeeze.Dougan wrote:Getting back to the OP...
...a few weeks back I was on Century Range at Bisley shooting a TR comp...all afternoon the forces (looked like teams from all services and some European too) were using Butt 19 (so the same range as us civvies) for some sort of running forward comp shooting at figure 11s...they were all using various 5.56s on fully auto (or possibly 3 round bursts?), and it was amazing how little noise/disruption it was causing; in fact, as interesting as it was I kept forgetting it was going on - I also noticed that the sand splash was minimal, despite the auto fire...
...and it did cross my mind at the time that had they been using Brens it would have been a lot more 'noticeable'.

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Re: Then and now.
...next time you are pondering....ponder on thissafetyfirst wrote:One of my favourite pondering pics...
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