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Re: NRA spent £18,000 on armoury software after theft

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:40 pm
by Blackstuff
Now theres a can of worms! lol :run:

Re: NRA spent £18,000 on armoury software after theft

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:47 pm
by Fedaykin
Gaz wrote:
I hadn't thought of it as a full-cost-of-ownership thing, it makes more sense if you lump in all of the infrastructure and training. The quote made it sound as if they'd bought software alone priced at £18k.

As for the actual headline, this might be the only occasion in history when "sniper" is accurate - the gun in question was a Mauser sniper rifle. Shame they then screwed up by calling it a "K89"...
Ah now I guessed that Gaz! It was my suggestion for the more accurate article that you will no doubt write Gaz ;)

Unfortunately people have a poor understanding when it comes to the value of some things, to the average Joe on the street £18,000 is a huge amount of money! In a commercial database sense taking in account full cost of ownership it is peanuts.

Just be glad the NRA haven't done what many a small organisation has in the past and got somebody who says they are a dab hand at Access to knock something up...well unless that is what they did whereupon the headline would be:

NRA get fleeced buying inappropriate and insecure database!

Re: NRA spent £18,000 on armoury software after theft

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:48 am
by Blu
Browning_grrl wrote:That's interesting, mostly because I didn't know that the UK had a "NRA" as well. I guess not the same sort of thing as ours though? :)
lol lol lol Dude, it's not even close.

Re: NRA spent £18,000 on armoury software after theft

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:44 pm
by Mike95
I do not understand how a data base will help security..presumably security depends on keeping the guns under lock and key...a paper register, properly kept, should suffice. The EU Directive 2008/51 indicates that computerised records are required for an RFD from December 2014, but the Home Office directive of 23/12/2014 indicates that either paper records or computerised records may be maintained by an RFD...I assume this applies to the NRA. £18000 seems a lot of dosh to me..better spent on decent locks and a limited access to the keys. How many people have access to the keys?

Mike95

Re: NRA spent £18,000 on armoury software after theft

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:02 am
by Fedaykin
To be honest Mike95 wasn't a paper register, stout locks and limited access to keys the system they already had in place and totally failed.

As already pointed out £18,000 is cheap for a database in a commercial sense, any organisation that processes and holds a large number of items should have a computerised database.

Re: NRA spent £18,000 on armoury software after theft

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:03 am
by Mr_Logic
Databases are expensive.

SQL enterprise costs more than 18K for pretty much any configuration, so it easy to spend that much. 18K is cheap!

Re: NRA spent £18,000 on armoury software after theft

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:42 am
by HALODIN
By contrast MySQL is free, so swings and roundabouts. It can get expensive if you've got barcode hand held scanners as well.

Re: NRA spent £18,000 on armoury software after theft

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:49 am
by Demonic69
They're probably running an Excel spreadsheet with a couple of Macros created by "Dave" the "IT Guy" (probably someone's nephew or brother-in-law) who knows all about computers from his days hacking Xboxes while he coasted through some mickey-mouse IT degree.

Re: NRA spent £18,000 on armoury software after theft

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:52 am
by dromia
Demonic69 wrote:mickey-mouse IT degree.
Degrees in digital cartoons?

Whatever next?

Re: NRA spent £18,000 on armoury software after theft

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:54 am
by HALODIN
I contracted for one of the banks at Canary Wharf and I can confirm their business runs on Excel.