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Re: Dragunov vs Sennybridge "F" range vs 6x42 POSP scope
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:25 pm
by meles meles
*Nominates snayperski for The Golden Anorak award*
Re: Dragunov vs Sennybridge "F" range vs 6x42 POSP scope
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:53 pm
by froggy
after the Romanians refused to participate in the invasion of Czechoslavakia.
Errare : After Romanians comrads declined assist Czechoslovakian proletarians on path to enlightenment ... Remember Tovarich, I still have rusty keys to nice Siberian holydays camp-site Politburo gave me ...
Did nice girl Olga sit on lap translate Po 4-12x42 manual for B'day ?
Re: Dragunov vs Sennybridge "F" range vs 6x42 POSP scope
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:29 pm
by nickb834
by 'eck, that looks a bit rough - the rifle schematic needs some work too

Re: Dragunov vs Sennybridge "F" range vs 6x42 POSP scope
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:56 pm
by meles meles
Here's a 'spot the difference' picture especially for snayperski to drool over..

Re: Dragunov vs Sennybridge "F" range vs 6x42 POSP scope
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:38 pm
by snayperskaya
froggy wrote:after the Romanians refused to participate in the invasion of Czechoslavakia.
Errare : After Romanians comrads declined assist Czechoslovakian proletarians on path to enlightenment ... Remember Tovarich, I still have rusty keys to nice Siberian holydays camp-site Politburo gave me ...
Did nice girl Olga sit on lap translate Po 4-12x42 manual for B'day ?
Unfortunately not Comrade.........by the way I believe the girl in the above pic is Mikhail Kalashnikovs' Granddaughter........
Re: Dragunov vs Sennybridge "F" range vs 6x42 POSP scope
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:06 am
by Demonic69
snayperskaya wrote:by the way I believe the girl in the above pic is Mikhail Kalashnikovs' Granddaughter........
Lol, aren't they all? ;-)
Re: Dragunov vs Sennybridge "F" range vs 6x42 POSP scope
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:08 am
by dromia
Another tractor mechanics class.
Re: Dragunov vs Sennybridge "F" range vs 6x42 POSP scope
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:33 am
by froggy
And after the class ... having innocent proletarian fun after a hard day's work at the kolkhoz, unless of course it is about learning tractor's safety ?
Re: Dragunov vs Sennybridge "F" range vs 6x42 POSP scope
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:40 am
by Demonic69
I hope they're water guns, filled with vodka!
Re: Dragunov vs Sennybridge "F" range vs 6x42 POSP scope
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:10 pm
by nickb834
snayperskaya wrote:What you need Comrade is a PO 3-9x42 or a PO 4-12x42 1pn21 pancratic zoom scope.The 4-12 version is a lot rarer than the 3-9, both are calibrated for a 150gr round and with both the zoom setting corresponds to range in 100s' of metres, so if your target is 600m away for example you turn the zoom to "6" and aim dead on.These scopes are available if you are prepared to search about a bit, my PO 4-12x42 came off the marketplace forum on AKfiles.com.Below is a pic of my original late 60s PSO-1 (which has beautifully clear optics, a 1.7m rangefinder and a fully functioning IR Detector) and the PO 4-12x42 1pn21.
How the zoom/range function works
While these scopes are ideal for somewhere like Sennybridge with multiple targets at different ranges they are not really suited for shooting at one set distance due to the way they function.
So I've had another think - and whilst I do fancy a 1pn21 - it isn't going to fit the bill.
Given that the range is "dialled" up on the scope, when I set it to circa 675 metres (for where the pillbox target is on F range) then the magnification is also going to be around 6.75 - which is marginally better than my 6x42 scope - but does absolutely nothing in real terms for me not being able to see where the round hits so I can adjust fire accordingly.
If you'll recall from the first post, I can't clearly see at 6x at ~675 meters the fall when hit plate in the "pillbox" window - through a 20x-60x power spotting scope (even at 20x) I can see it clearly to calculate holdover / scope adjustments, but the requirement is for a scope with BDC for 54R such that I don't need a spotter and can see where my own shots fall.
The trouble with the 1pn21 is the automatic BDC and dialling the distance in dictates the power at a given distance - so whilst it's fun, it's not going to help much.
Maybe a fixed power POSP 10x42 with BDC is the way to go, or a 1P59 in 3-10x (again BDC) if I can find one. I think there might be some 4-12x42's knocking about also.......