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Re: Remington 700- All triggers to be recalled
Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:34 pm
by Mike357
Could you just get a cash settlement and buy a decent aftermarket one?
Re: Remington 700- All triggers to be recalled
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:11 pm
by Fedaykin
Highly unlikely. An aftermarket trigger would present all sorts of liability issues for them. Also it would make what is already a costly logistics nightmare even worse.
Also will this product recall even apply here? It was a US court that pushed them into it.
Re: Remington 700- All triggers to be recalled
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:45 pm
by Gaz
Sim G wrote:"Settlement", "court", "federal judge", sounds like someone sued Remington and this is their "penalty"...
Fairly common in the US courts. Companies over there tend to roll over and settle rather than face punitive damages awards from courts in the face of sustained class-action suits.
Mind you, with a recall of millions of decades-old rifles, which CNBC reckons could cost up to a billion dollars, it's hard to see what Remington feared from the courts that could have been worse, from the business perspective, than this.
Re: Remington 700- All triggers to be recalled
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:22 pm
by Fedaykin
Well in the end there is no chance that Remington will know where all those rifles are. It will require owners to bring them in somewhere to verify they have an actual Remington 700 to allow a new trigger to be fitted.
Re: Remington 700- All triggers to be recalled
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:32 am
by TattooedGun
Fedaykin wrote:Well in the end there is no chance that Remington will know where all those rifles are. It will require owners to bring them in somewhere to verify they have an actual Remington 700 to allow a new trigger to be fitted.
Exactly... Remington probably weighed up the possibilities of how many people will actually do something about it, and how many will continue to shoot the rifle that's never given them any issues, or already have a replaced trigger...
They might get less than 10% take up in replacements... I'd hazard a guess of a lot less.
5 million rifles sold since '62
10% is 500,000 triggers (at a push)
I bet they'll re-tool, or already have re-tooled and making a more substancial trigger which will cost them pence to knock up, maybe $1-$5 on the scale that they will be able to make them. best case, $500,000 to $2.5 million...
Makes sense, really...
Re: Remington 700- All triggers to be recalled
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:45 am
by saddler
The X-Mark Pro recall was done initially online via the manufacturers website.
Entering the serial no was the way to verify ownership & be allocated a unique recall number.
The UK warranty was more of a snafu but eventually worked out ok....though the time factor was something of a p*** take.
Given the mentality of folk in the USA when such warranty recalls happen there, I see a LARGE %age uptake on this plus a sudden increase in RRP of Timney, Jewell & other 3rd party aftermarket triggers.
Look at the Ruger single action revolver recall - that went on for decades & they'd not sold in anything like the numbers of the R700!
Re: Remington 700- All triggers to be recalled
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:31 pm
by Fedaykin
I wouldn't be surprised if some use it as a way to stock up on some spare trigger units, lets say you are a dealer with a number of shot out junk R700. Do the recall on them and you get several brand new trigger units.
Re: Remington 700- All triggers to be recalled
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:31 pm
by saddler
Fedaykin wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if some use it as a way to stock up on some spare trigger units, lets say you are a dealer with a number of shot out junk R700. Do the recall on them and you get several brand new trigger units.
Er - NOPE
Did you ever examine any of the X-Mark-Pro replacement triggers?
I thought that the X-Mark-Pro was a POS until I saw what they brought out to replace it with - an even bigger POS.
Luckily one of my 700's has a non factory trigger. Another has a Walker that was tuned over 15 years ago & has never missed a beat. Third one has a Walker that I will similarly tune once I bring it home from the RFD/storage.
Some folk WILL try to make money on this - and given the FUBAR Policy at Big Green I hope that the money made is by the right people this time. Have a company run by accountants & s*** like this is par for the course...
Re: Remington 700- All triggers to be recalled
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:57 pm
by Fedaykin
Why NOPE? I wasn't commenting on the quality of the trigger unit just observing that some might take advantage of the situation.