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Re: VZ58 M.A.R.S. - First impressions
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:30 pm
by Blackstuff
Are you feeling ok? :lol: Yes please i'll have it Jon, if you are going to post it let me know and i'll arrange an SSA envelope or are you going to man up and come to Crocketford for the PSG/LBF 2 gun a week on Saturday?

Re: VZ58 M.A.R.S. - First impressions
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:33 pm
by snayperskaya
saddler wrote:Blackstuff wrote:froggy wrote:Comrade,
If you problem find nice proper wood impregnated plastic best original hand-guard ? Me happy to help ! BTW I am just very jalous of your new toy

They seem to be freely available in lots of places. I didn't realise
how popular this gun is until i started looking into getting bits and bobs for it.
Yip
Saw LOTS of semi-auto vz58 rifles on sale at the February show
Only about £350 or so (from memory) - may have been a smidge less
I have a mil-spec US issue 30-rd steel mag. you are welcome to
If you are a dealer semi auto Vzs' can be picked up in the Czech Republic for €75 each!!!.After looking at several Vzs' I'd sooner have my AKs'.
Re: VZ58 M.A.R.S. - First impressions
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:11 pm
by froggy
I dearly love the work of glorious Comrade Michael but not to sure if I'll follow you on this path Comrade Snayperskaya.
The standard Vz 58 is :
- very well made,
- lighter system (both the weapon & standard mags)
- as reliable,
- as accurate if not better,
- controls better full-auto,
- safety/fire selector is more ergonomic,
- keeps bolt open on last round (in know the Yugo does but ...)
- can reload using stripper clips directly into the mag via the open bolt,
etc... etc...
It is a very personal judgement, I am a big fan, but objectively there is not much to dislike about the Vz 58 really ...
Re: VZ58 M.A.R.S. - First impressions
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:28 pm
by snayperskaya
I suppose its what you are used to, I have no problem with AK ergonomics.The reason the Czechs stuck with the Vz rather than switching to the AKM had more to do with national pride rather than any advantages in the field.
Re: VZ58 M.A.R.S. - First impressions
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:11 pm
by Demonic69
Looks really nice Blackstuff. I wonder if you'll have a buffer tube and stock going spare soon...?
Re: VZ58 M.A.R.S. - First impressions
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:49 pm
by leeroy7031
John MH wrote:I was the Safety Supervisor for a chap using one at the last CSR League Match, accuracy was reasonable but he did have a few malfunctions which I'm sure he'll tease out.
I did butts duty with him following the infantry match, by the time he's got to 200M all his ammo was spent

He seemed very impressed with the rifle, as Mike said brass is thrown about 45 degrees forward and right.
He certainly seemed pleased with his purchase, accuracy wise he told me that 1.5" at 100m rested was easily possible so perfectly ok for CSR or similar disciplines.
May consider one myself when I get around to letting my speedmaster go
Re: VZ58 M.A.R.S. - First impressions
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:54 pm
by meles meles
Hmmm, we rather think it looked pretty nice as standard but a real dog's dinner after it was kitted out with all the Gucci kit. maybe we're alone in that thought ?*
* Badgers have taste.
Re: VZ58 M.A.R.S. - First impressions
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:15 pm
by saddler
meles meles wrote:Hmmm, we rather think it looked pretty nice as standard but a real dog's dinner after it was kitted out with all the Gucci kit. maybe we're alone in that thought ?*
* Badgers have taste.
Nope
If ya want something to end up looking like a tarts handbag, give it to Mark!
I'm surprised it's not also been retro-fitted with a bottle opener & a thing for getting stones out of horses hooves.
Re: VZ58 M.A.R.S. - First impressions
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:18 pm
by froggy
Is that more what you have in mind monsieur Blaireau ?

Re: VZ58 M.A.R.S. - First impressions
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:18 pm
by meles meles
saddler wrote: & a thing for getting stones out of horses hooves.
Isn't that a Boy Scout ?