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dromia wrote:I can reassure you there is no hidden agenda (a good number of NRA Trustees are committed Home Loaders!) as we are keen to develop our strategies to support and develop this important area of full bore shooting on the basis of facts reported by our shooters.

Kind regards
Andrew Mercer
Secretary General

Er what does it say above? Why don't you believe this? I do!

They are just after info - that is all.

Sorry - no conspiracy here sign01

I completed the survey but agree with others that it's not very well thought out.

To get the most out of it they should be using conditional questions, also some of the questions need to allow multiple answers.

karen wrote:Why don't you believe this? I do!

They are just after info - that is all.

Sorry - no conspiracy here sign01

Past actions, perhaps? I fail to see what significant steps the NRA can take to encourage handloading, but quite a bit they could do to hinder it...the problem is, Karen, that I no longer view the NRA as being quite as much as "on our side" as I would like to. Not to say that many hardworking people within the NRA don't deserve, and have, my respect and trust, because they do--but the organisation, and the leadership, seems to be moving in a direction I fear will not bode well for the sport.

I hope to find I'm wrong on this--but I reserve judgement.

rox wrote:All I've received from the NRA lately is an Ages match invite that shared my email address with dozens of strangers

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Um NRA aren't organising Ages Match this year - its the Surrey - so are you sure it was actually from the NRA?

Might just be from one of the captains or the Surrey? Can you check?

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karen

karen wrote:

dromia wrote:I can reassure you there is no hidden agenda (a good number of NRA Trustees are committed Home Loaders!) as we are keen to develop our strategies to support and develop this important area of full bore shooting on the basis of facts reported by our shooters.

Kind regards
Andrew Mercer
Secretary General

Er what does it say above? Why don't you believe this? I do!

They are just after info - that is all.

Sorry - no conspiracy here sign01

Well they've done an awful job of asking for high quality info and almost as embarrassing as that effort is their lack of explanation for its purpose. It appears amateurish and it wouldn't have been hard to do either better. I'm sorry but after the recent "incident" and Mercer's article in the journal I dont trust that the information I provide will be used for my / others benefit. That said, I'm not completing it.

karen wrote:

dromia wrote:I can reassure you there is no hidden agenda (a good number of NRA Trustees are committed Home Loaders!) as we are keen to develop our strategies to support and develop this important area of full bore shooting on the basis of facts reported by our shooters.

Kind regards
Andrew Mercer
Secretary General

Er what does it say above? Why don't you believe this? I do!

They are just after info - that is all.

Sorry - no conspiracy here sign01

It's so poorly constructed that even if there is no hidden agenda they'll manage to find a way of making 2+2 = 5 and then they'll probably tack on an agenda as an afterthought.

It's telling that the NRA have to tack on "I can reassure you there is no hidden agenda ..." it's as if they realize its members don't fully trust them to look after their members.

That'll be the ex-pistol shooters and folk that used to be able to enjoy a quiet weekday's shooting on Short Siberia for starters.

karen wrote:

rox wrote:All I've received from the NRA lately is an Ages match invite that shared my email address with dozens of strangers

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Um NRA aren't organising Ages Match this year - its the Surrey - so are you sure it was actually from the NRA?

Might just be from one of the captains or the Surrey? Can you check?

I know that the viruses I received came directly from NRA email servers, apparently from compromised accounts of staff members.

I know that in the past the NRA have distributed email addresses of qualifying shooters to team captains/adjutants freely, as appears to be the case here, to be used or abused as those persons see fit. I have many examples of the address lists being abused.

I know that the NRA have shared my email address with hundreds, if not thousands, of other individuals on many occasions through appalling privacy practices and exceptionally poor information governance.

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rox wrote: I know that the NRA have shared my email address with hundreds, if not thousands, of other individuals on many occasions through appalling privacy practices and exceptionally poor information governance.
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Isn't this illegal? Breaking the Data Protection Act?

Mark

It's so p*ss poor that I won't give it the time of day.

Very inept and amateurish.

For what it is worth I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories about the NRA.

From my experiences the NRA neither has the intelligence or capacity required for anything so sophisticated.

To me this survey in its primitive inadequacy demonstrates this amply. Shame, as this dilettantish exercise further discredits the NRA as a serious body.

It has been called amateurish which I think is an insult to amateurs everywhere, I know a lot of amateurs who would have made a for better job of this.

To me it is just plain inept.