Straight Pull Tokarevs being seized

[bnz41]

Just spoken to a dealer that knows about it, yes several SVT40's (Tokarevs) SP rifles and a number of SKS SP rifles have been seized by Police.

That's all well and good - but why?

One police force seem to think not fully Sec 1 ...........others say they are ok fully sec1 Dealer quote "could be a long time before we find out which is which"

[Blackstuff]

Sounds like the SGC LRA9 saga all over again! :cool2:

[snayperskaya]

Possibly one of these



It's probably a taste thing,

Nothing wrong with Glorious SVT-40 Comrade

I have always thought these were in a grey area as they appear to be a built on the original Soviet semi-auto receivers, at least all the ones I've seen have been.Very nearly bought one but the possibility of future problems over legality put me off.

[Charlie Muggins]

Possibly one of these



It's probably a taste thing,

Nothing wrong with Glorious SVT-40 Comrade

I have always thought these were in a grey area as they appear to be a built on the original Soviet semi-auto receivers, at least all the ones I've seen have been.Very nearly bought one but the possibility of future problems over legality put me off.

So are several other rifles which are really available. SLR/FAL various, M1 carbine from ITL, M1 rifle just off the top of my head. I wonder if there is a specific part of the conversion procedure for the SVT40 to which Plod had objected? Seems an odd choice if they simply want to test the case law on "bin of parts" conversions.

[HALODIN]

The Sabre Defence FALS have "new" receivers that were imported from IMBEL.

[bnz41]

The part in question that is causing concern is the Barrels and how they were manufactured it would appear.

[HALODIN]

That can mean only one thing, they're gas port blocked S5 barrels, which is an absolute no-no.

[Mattnall]

That can mean only one thing, they're gas port blocked S5 barrels, which is an absolute no-no.

Early Olympic Arms AR15s had ported barrels, a gas port in itself is not illegal or S5, it is the readily convertible nature of the rifle that is the problem. Of the Olympics I have worked on some had gas tubes crimped, one had a ball bearing jammed in the gas port and another had something rammed and glued (I think) in the gas block.

Also standard 1:12" M16 barrels were used on the Cam rifles, complete with gas port.

There are no S5 parts, only parts of S5 firearms (from the HO).
Apparently, when broken down, S5 weapons' parts can become S1 parts in certain circumstances.

[saddler]

That can mean only one thing, they're gas port blocked S5 barrels, which is an absolute no-no.

Also standard 1:12" M16 barrels were used on the Cam rifles, complete with gas port.

Que??

Both my CAM's have 1:8 barrels

[Robert303]

Interesting. The explanation I heard some years ago was that if they were made from parts 'That had never been made into Sec 5 Firearms' then they were OK. BUT if they were made from parts from taken down Sec 5 firearms then they were NOT OK. I was told that you had to have some pretty good evidence that you were using fresh unassembelled / newly made parts to get Sec 1 status for the finished article. It will be interesting to see 1) If we ever find out the true story behind this and 2) If the Home Office clarify A) The rules and B) Who issues the 'Approval'.