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Re: Dress impressions
Les, we have guys like that here as well mate and a lot of them as you say look real wallies but hey what the hell, if that's their thing. It's when someone tries to have something policed/banned or made policy just because it "irritates them" well to me they are just as a big a part of the shooting worlds problems than any antis out there.
Personally I wouldn't join any club that dictated what folks can and can't wear but as you point out it's a matter of personal choice whether to do so or not.
Personally I wouldn't join any club that dictated what folks can and can't wear but as you point out it's a matter of personal choice whether to do so or not.
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I'd do anything for a pint :cheers:christel wrote:Why do I believe you :lol:Meaty wrote:Oh, I do hope I bump into him at this years Trafalgar-I will be the 6'4" unshaven one with the flecktarn shirt, fluorescent pink tutu and 'my little pony' lunch-box.
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Christel - LOL!
Live and let live folks - if people want to wear cam gear, that's up to them. Personally I've seen people go OTT at Bisley, but if they want to look like that, that's their choice. In the same way as they can shoot whatever discipline they like, that's fine too.
Live and let live folks - if people want to wear cam gear, that's up to them. Personally I've seen people go OTT at Bisley, but if they want to look like that, that's their choice. In the same way as they can shoot whatever discipline they like, that's fine too.
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I help run corporate days at Bisley for the Great Britain Rifle Teams. We have clients from all aspects of society sometimes paying up to £500 per head to shoot a variety of disciplines, very few of them have had any exposure to firearms. In the majority of cases they comment on the wearing of combat/paramilitary clothing being worn by some members of the shooting fraternity, as why are these people dressing up and playing soldiers when it is obvious that they are not. Quite often the clients cannot believe that shooters would do harm to their image by dressing up in what these clients consider inappropriate clothing. Some of the clients that come along do have influence in levels of government and we wonder why we are not taken seriously.
I personally think that there is no place at Bisley or other ranges for civilians to be wearing combat/paramilitary style clothing, as unfortunately image does matter.
If we go back to the days of Pistol AD, combat/paramilitary clothing was actually banned (unless worn by members of the armed forces/police whilst on duty and competing) by the organisers and persons wearing such were asked to leave Bisley. Oh how I wish for the same attitudes today.
I personally think that there is no place at Bisley or other ranges for civilians to be wearing combat/paramilitary style clothing, as unfortunately image does matter.
If we go back to the days of Pistol AD, combat/paramilitary clothing was actually banned (unless worn by members of the armed forces/police whilst on duty and competing) by the organisers and persons wearing such were asked to leave Bisley. Oh how I wish for the same attitudes today.
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So, basically, the largest, most important enemies to shooting in this country that the NRA should direct their "might"* against aren't entrenched prejudice from ignorant members of the public, shooting organisations who don't give a damn about anything other than their little niches, the media whipping up hysterias based on half truths or no hope political parties desperately grabbing populist votes. It's actually a few blokes who, for whatever reason, turn up for a days shooting wearing camouflage. Who knew.
Out of interest (as I alluded to earlier), what do the CNC wear at Bisley?
I'd also be intrigued to know why and when this rule re. camouflage was relaxed by the powers that be.
*Quiet at the back.
Out of interest (as I alluded to earlier), what do the CNC wear at Bisley?
I wonder how these people you deal with would respond to the carrying of pistols around Bisley in holsters, as was the case in the "good old days".If we go back to the days of Pistol AD, combat/paramilitary clothing was actually banned (unless worn by members of the armed forces/police whilst on duty and competing) by the organisers and persons wearing such were asked to leave Bisley. Oh how I wish for the same attitudes today.
I'd also be intrigued to know why and when this rule re. camouflage was relaxed by the powers that be.
*Quiet at the back.
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Re: Dress impressions
I'm afraid Mr Houghton wouldn't be happy if he came clay shooting at our club, at least half the members turn up in comfortable, warm, shooting friendly designed clothing which is usually something in this years Camo pattern. Come the colder winter months and the number increases significantly!.
Most of the members stalk, shoot game or do pest control, they shoot clays or at the range in the same clothing they normally use, after all it's designed for shooting in!.
During the warmer months I usually just go in a jacket and jeans or jogging bottoms and it's me that looks out of place!. Come the colder weather and out come the thermally lined Mossy Oak trousers, jacket and size 13 boots, you do get a few funny looks if you pop into Morrisons or Iceland on the way back though!.
Most of the members stalk, shoot game or do pest control, they shoot clays or at the range in the same clothing they normally use, after all it's designed for shooting in!.
During the warmer months I usually just go in a jacket and jeans or jogging bottoms and it's me that looks out of place!. Come the colder weather and out come the thermally lined Mossy Oak trousers, jacket and size 13 boots, you do get a few funny looks if you pop into Morrisons or Iceland on the way back though!.
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Steve, How is wearing camouflage clothing dressing up and playing soldiers? As one forum member has said, he wears a $40 combat jacket that he doesn't mind getting all muddy when shooting and it's also warm in winter as well, do you believe he wears it to impress or play soldiers? Practical, proven and cheap over expensive and might not work.Steve E wrote:I help run corporate days at Bisley for the Great Britain Rifle Teams. We have clients from all aspects of society sometimes paying up to £500 per head to shoot a variety of disciplines, very few of them have had any exposure to firearms. In the majority of cases they comment on the wearing of combat/paramilitary clothing being worn by some members of the shooting fraternity, as why are these people dressing up and playing soldiers when it is obvious that they are not. Quite often the clients cannot believe that shooters would do harm to their image by dressing up in what these clients consider inappropriate clothing. Some of the clients that come along do have influence in levels of government and we wonder why we are not taken seriously.
I personally think that there is no place at Bisley or other ranges for civilians to be wearing combat/paramilitary style clothing, as unfortunately image does matter.
If we go back to the days of Pistol AD, combat/paramilitary clothing was actually banned (unless worn by members of the armed forces/police whilst on duty and competing) by the organisers and persons wearing such were asked to leave Bisley. Oh how I wish for the same attitudes today.
You say of the clients "very few of them have had any exposure to firearms" which to me also means none of them have lay freezing on a range in the middle of winter putting rounds down range. Thing is mate a lot of the military surplus clothing is tried and tested and better than a lot of the expensive civilian stuff.
Just because folks wear camo doesn't mean they are playing GI Joe, I wear a mossy oak two piece parka in the winter, not because I want to be a walter but because it's the best piece of clothing I have found that suits my needs. The fact that it's camo means nothing to me.
And some folks wonder why shooting in the UK is in the $h!t.Oh how I wish for the same attitudes today.
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So, instead of me wearing the camo waterproof gear, you'd like me to go out and buy some brightly coloured ones purely for when I'm at bisley ? Or can I carry on using the ones I use when shooting 'proper' ?Steve E wrote:I help run corporate days at Bisley for the Great Britain Rifle Teams. We have clients from all aspects of society sometimes paying up to £500 per head to shoot a variety of disciplines, very few of them have had any exposure to firearms. In the majority of cases they comment on the wearing of combat/paramilitary clothing being worn by some members of the shooting fraternity, as why are these people dressing up and playing soldiers when it is obvious that they are not. Quite often the clients cannot believe that shooters would do harm to their image by dressing up in what these clients consider inappropriate clothing. Some of the clients that come along do have influence in levels of government and we wonder why we are not taken seriously.
I personally think that there is no place at Bisley or other ranges for civilians to be wearing combat/paramilitary style clothing, as unfortunately image does matter.
If we go back to the days of Pistol AD, combat/paramilitary clothing was actually banned (unless worn by members of the armed forces/police whilst on duty and competing) by the organisers and persons wearing such were asked to leave Bisley. Oh how I wish for the same attitudes today.
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From the 2014 NRA Bible:
"SECTION 57 – DRESS, EQUIPMENT AND POSITIONS
201 Dress for civilian target shooting should be appropriate to the Discipline
and weather prevailing or expected. Military uniform should only be worn by
military personnel on duty (Para 202). A competitor whose dress, equipment
or position is thought inappropriate or likely to bring the Association into
disrepute may be challenged by the RO or other member of staff, and may be
required to withdraw."
"SECTION 57 – DRESS, EQUIPMENT AND POSITIONS
201 Dress for civilian target shooting should be appropriate to the Discipline
and weather prevailing or expected. Military uniform should only be worn by
military personnel on duty (Para 202). A competitor whose dress, equipment
or position is thought inappropriate or likely to bring the Association into
disrepute may be challenged by the RO or other member of staff, and may be
required to withdraw."
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