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Re: Rip off postage!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:25 pm
by zanes
Mattnall wrote: I can understand why many offer a flat-rate shipping, but the problem comes when you order a small item and find you are paying maybe £10 for shipping, the same as if you ordered many much larger items. The shipper wins on some and loses on others but has the ease of knowing exactly what any order will cost to ship. As the individual buyer you may win or you may lose, it's your choice, you can always go elsewhere.
Have you ever considered, you know, asking the company/person if there's any chance of a cheaper option if it's (say) listed at £10 fixed postage for a few springs? I have, and succeeded before.

And I quite like fixed postage after Kranks charged me £4 to deliver a thousand 240gr bullets + other stuff. Again, it comes down to "win on some, lose on others".

As has been said above, anyone who thinks cost of P+P = cost of a stamp and envelope is either deluded, being deliberately obtuse or hasn't sold anything via post recently.

For instance, I've got exactly the "stick it in a jiffy bag and in a postbox when you're passing" situation with something I'm selling at the moment- a scope rail for an Umarex pistol. Unfortunately it rather breaks down when you consider that a jiffy bag with anything remotely bulky (ie. not a letter or sheet) doesn't come under the "62p for a stamp" argument anymore and, with the number of scammers about, realistically has to go at least signed for.

These days I just list everything as "£x posted" to avoid the types who point out you can post it for £0.02 cheaper, or the "post it not signed for, bruv" types.

Re: Rip off postage!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:51 pm
by phaedra1106
christel wrote:Nice to see that you support British industry. Not.
Was there really any need for that?, have you any idea of what I've spent on goods from British manufacturers or suppliers in the last 50+ years?, I don't think so. Some things I want are made in the US and are considerably cheaper to buy there and have shipped over, same reason I buy shotgun components from Siarm in Italy or Nosler bullets from Germany etc. etc.

Same reason most of our grocery shopping is done at Asda instead of Tesco, Sainsburys or Waitrose, same reason as people look for the cheapest petrol or diesel prices, buying shooting related stuff is no different.

Did I complain about your shipping charges for the Starline cases I bought from you?, no I didn't because unlike some you don't overcharge. £4 to £8 to post about 25g of de-capping pins is a rip off, I bet you wouldn't charge that much would you?.

I sell and post things quite often and strangely I'm neither deluded or obtuse. I charge exactly what Royal Mail or whichever carrier service I use charge me, I give the buyer the choice of having it shipped with or without tracking at their own risk, again charged at actual cost.

Re: Rip off postage!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:09 pm
by Swamp Donkey
Just email rcbs and they'll ship you new ones out foc. Might take a few weeks, but you won't have to pay postage.

Re: Rip off postage!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:46 pm
by piroflip
MiLisCer wrote:Rant time!

Just broke decapping pin on my .223 small base die, no major issue, cheap to replace. Quick look online and average is a pack of 5 for about £3 ( the ones with the nipple not the straight ones) then comes the postage/shipping!! Cheapest was £4 and most expensive £8.

How on earth can people justify that for a small envelope or jiffy bag and a large letter stamp? They would actually go in a normal envelope and 1st class stamp would cover it.

Time to ring around and see who has them locally.
they won't do it at cost,,,,,,,,,,,,,why should they.
they're a money making business with overheads to cover.
i know, i run a wholesale company and my customers expect a Rolls Royce service but Skoda prices.
AND,,,,,,,,,they also have to pay somebody to pack it and take it to the PO.

Re: Rip off postage!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:09 pm
by saddler
piroflip wrote:
MiLisCer wrote:Rant time!

Just broke decapping pin on my .223 small base die, no major issue, cheap to replace.
they won't do it at cost,,,,,,,,,,,,,why should they.
they're a money making business with overheads to cover.
i know, i run a wholesale company and my customers expect a Rolls Royce service but Skoda prices.
AND,,,,,,,,,they also have to pay somebody to pack it and take it to the PO.
You're new! :wave:

Small base die screams "RCBS" as it's part of their way of naming dies

As has ALREADY been posted, RCBS - in AMERICA (big place, turn hard left off the M6 northbound & start swimming) - WILL send the parts FROM AMERICA - for ZERO TOTAL COST to the customer.

More generally though.
I'm also running a business.
IF someone needs an item quickly I tend to still use Royal Mail...if there's no rush & the customer is in the UK I use MyHerms.
The latter (for the same weight size package) is cheaper than Royal Snail PLC, is tracked for free and for an extra 20p is COLLECTED FROM MY DOOR

I can tell you don't run MidwahayUK though - they're Rolls Royce prices & LADA service
& glad to see your better now, you were stuck in that comma for a while there tongueout

Re: Rip off postage!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:37 pm
by artiglio
Evening

Even fellow shooters take the proverbial, I agreed to buy a couple of items off this forum, the add said postage at cost, I naively thought the seller would do their best to keep costs low. So imagine my dismay at getting a £17 bill to receive £55 worth of goods. By comparison Hermes would have cost under £7 tracked,signed and insured. Gives a rather jaded opinion of some. But you live and learn.

Allthe best phil

Re: Rip off postage!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:20 pm
by Alpha1
Is it not cheaper to use a company like Hermes. I normally use them for shipping stuff but then I am not a dealer. Or is there a problem with using that type of company..

Re: Rip off postage!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:36 pm
by saddler
Alpha1 wrote:Is it not cheaper to use a company like Hermes. I normally use them for shipping stuff but then I am not a dealer. Or is there a problem with using that type of company..
Only problem is olde-worlde attitudes & fear of the unknown

A BIG firm I get leather from are about to switch exclusively to Hermes as they've noticed a HUGE drop in Royal Mail PLC standards and a polar opposite change in PLC prices...
Voting with their cheque book & giving RM PLC the archers salute

It IS the way things will go...market forces at work: adapt or die

Re: Rip off postage!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:42 pm
by Dougan
artiglio wrote: So imagine my dismay at getting a £17 bill
Crikey! - Someone on the forum sends me packages that the postie can barely lift for considerably less than that...

Re: Rip off postage!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:47 pm
by saddler
Dougan wrote:
artiglio wrote: So imagine my dismay at getting a £17 bill
Crikey! - Someone on the forum sends me packages that the postie can barely lift for considerably less than that...
Aye, and one day I'll sort out why the detonator keeps failing...