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Re: Jungle Carbine
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:41 am
by ovenpaa
It is a fine looking rifle, I would give it house room
Re: Jungle Carbine
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:36 am
by Andy632
huntervixen wrote:In addition to the lateral screw through the forend (some say the screw was for rifle grenade strengthening, on the No4 at least), it will probably have a small circular cartouche stamped into the left hand side of the butt...never have seen one clear enough to read!
Ishapore refurbished and re-stocked thousands of No4's and No5's, this process continued into the 1970's.
RFI refurb No5's are quite common in the west these days, both as live and deactivated rifles. I guess someone must have imported a batch back in the 90's.
Cheers, John.
Yes it has, about 1/2" diameter, with S^A inside it.
Re: Jungle Carbine
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:41 am
by Gaz
That foreend looks rather strange compared to a normal No.5. I know very little about Ishapore's output but was fitting/retaining the metal end cap from the No.4 forend usual practice for them?
The stamping on the receiver also looks odd to me, but again, I don't know enough about Ishapores to really offer a comment. Does it have the lightening cuts to the receiver, underneath and to either side of the rearsight?
Re: Jungle Carbine
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:04 am
by dromia
Looks Ishapore refurb to me.
What is wrong with the fore end cap?Looks like a standard squared late pattern to me.
What is odd with the receiver marks? Most if not all of the original markings were scrubbed during refurb, Ishapore stampings added and usually re-serialed as is the case with this rifle.
There are lightening cuts on the knox form and with the receiver stamping I'd be surprised if the receiver cuts weren't there as well. No doubt the owner will confirm or deny this.
Re: Jungle Carbine
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:17 pm
by Gaz
dromia wrote:Looks Ishapore refurb to me.
What is wrong with the fore end cap?Looks like a standard squared late pattern to me.
The No.5s I've seen have rounded/plain wood tips to their forends, as with these two:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_fVLk-VhFWE/U ... %2B005.JPG
But the No.5 isn't a rifle I know a huge amount about - and I know even less about Ishapores. Were end caps common on the later/Indian No.5s?
What is odd with the receiver marks? Most if not all of the original markings were scrubbed during refurb, Ishapore stampings added and usually re-serialed as is the case with this rifle.
I'm used to reading British/Commonwealth markings, so the font - plus the hyphenated "No-5MkI" - looks a bit odd compared with those.
Re: Jungle Carbine
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:08 pm
by dromia
The end caps were introduced in 1944 (two variants) and are usually more common that the rounded wood early versions.
Re: Jungle Carbine
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:12 pm
by Andy632
dromia wrote:Looks Ishapore refurb to me.
What is wrong with the fore end cap?Looks like a standard squared late pattern to me.
What is odd with the receiver marks? Most if not all of the original markings were scrubbed during refurb, Ishapore stampings added and usually re-serialed as is the case with this rifle.
There are lightening cuts on the knox form and with the receiver stamping I'd be surprised if the receiver cuts weren't there as well. No doubt the owner will confirm or deny this.
Receiver picky.
