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Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:55 pm
by snayperskaya
meles meles wrote:Oh we'd settle for Farmer Giles losing his turnip at 800m, but thought that was definitely the province of a TKIV85 rather than a Dragqueen...

*Begins to re-assess*
No problem for a Dragunov with decent ammo and scope.My SVDS will do 1 moa.

Or how about a Finnish M28/76 if you can find one

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Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:57 pm
by meles meles
As for a shotty, would one of these Bora thingummies

http://www.helstongunsmiths.com/default ... %3A08%3A40

from Helston Gunsmiths be allowed on our variation ?

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Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:58 pm
by meles meles
Oooh, those M28/76 look pretty, but weren't they replaced by the TKIV85?

Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:10 pm
by snayperskaya
meles meles wrote:Oooh, those M28/76 look pretty, but weren't they replaced by the TKIV85?
Not sure, I don't know much about them to be honest.With regard to Dragunov accuracy I think it helps that over here ours are effectively bolt action, I have read that some Russian snipers in Afghanistan and Chechnya would disable the gas system to increase accuracy

Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:14 pm
by meles meles
Our plan was to look at converting either a P14 action to 7.62x54R and dropping it in a Joe West stock (hints to ovenpaa) or getting a Moise Magnet and converting that to something like a TKIV85. However, if Dragqueens are cheap...

Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:20 pm
by ovenpaa
The straight pull Drags need a lot of effort to get them shooting straight at 800/1000 yards, they have a 26" ish barrel as standard however it is very skinny and soon warms up leading to vertical stringing (According to our illustrious/foreign forum Admin) She could get hers to work however it always seemed to take an excess of concentration and dark mutterings.

Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:24 pm
by meles meles
Hmmm, seems like a Noise Magnet or P14 action with a long, heavy, stainless barrel might be the way to go and dispense with the need for incantations and the ritual slaughter of chickenskayas...

Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:35 pm
by dave_303
How about a straight pull SVT 40? Some are also around with PU scope mounts.

Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:38 pm
by meles meles
We looked at a SVT 40 and liked it, however we think we'd rather it be self loading rather than converted to straight pull bolt action. Ultimately it will be a trade off betwixt price and accuracy, thus between a Dragqueen / SVT 40 and a TKIV look alike. We suspect the TKIV might be better in terms of both accuracy and cost.

Anyone going to educate us about FAC section 1 shotties, oomans? We do like the look of that Bora.

Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:52 pm
by snayperskaya
I like the look of the that Bora shotty bangbang.

Ovenpaa....I believe accuracy is better with the SVDS as despite the barrel being shorter than the SVD the barrel is thicker so reduces barrel whip, the SVDS also has a slightly thicker receiver which also helps with accuracy.