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Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:55 pm
by snayperskaya
meles meles wrote:Oh we'd settle for Farmer Giles losing his turnip at 800m, but thought that was definitely the province of a TKIV85 rather than a Dragqueen...
*Begins to re-assess*
No problem for a Dragunov with decent ammo and scope.My SVDS will do 1 moa.
Or how about a Finnish M28/76 if you can find one

Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:57 pm
by meles meles
As for a shotty, would one of these Bora thingummies
http://www.helstongunsmiths.com/default ... %3A08%3A40
from Helston Gunsmiths be allowed on our variation ?

Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:58 pm
by meles meles
Oooh, those M28/76 look pretty, but weren't they replaced by the TKIV85?
Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:10 pm
by snayperskaya
meles meles wrote:Oooh, those M28/76 look pretty, but weren't they replaced by the TKIV85?
Not sure, I don't know much about them to be honest.With regard to Dragunov accuracy I think it helps that over here ours are effectively bolt action, I have read that some Russian snipers in Afghanistan and Chechnya would disable the gas system to increase accuracy
Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:14 pm
by meles meles
Our plan was to look at converting either a P14 action to 7.62x54R and dropping it in a Joe West stock (hints to ovenpaa) or getting a Moise Magnet and converting that to something like a TKIV85. However, if Dragqueens are cheap...
Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:20 pm
by ovenpaa
The straight pull Drags need a lot of effort to get them shooting straight at 800/1000 yards, they have a 26" ish barrel as standard however it is very skinny and soon warms up leading to vertical stringing (According to our illustrious/foreign forum Admin) She could get hers to work however it always seemed to take an excess of concentration and dark mutterings.
Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:24 pm
by meles meles
Hmmm, seems like a Noise Magnet or P14 action with a long, heavy, stainless barrel might be the way to go and dispense with the need for incantations and the ritual slaughter of chickenskayas...
Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:35 pm
by dave_303
How about a straight pull SVT 40? Some are also around with PU scope mounts.
Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:38 pm
by meles meles
We looked at a SVT 40 and liked it, however we think we'd rather it be self loading rather than converted to straight pull bolt action. Ultimately it will be a trade off betwixt price and accuracy, thus between a Dragqueen / SVT 40 and a TKIV look alike. We suspect the TKIV might be better in terms of both accuracy and cost.
Anyone going to educate us about FAC section 1 shotties, oomans? We do like the look of that Bora.
Re: New forms used, new variations granted. What to buy?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:52 pm
by snayperskaya
I like the look of the that Bora shotty

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Ovenpaa....I believe accuracy is better with the SVDS as despite the barrel being shorter than the SVD the barrel is thicker so reduces barrel whip, the SVDS also has a slightly thicker receiver which also helps with accuracy.