TKIV-85

[Charlotte the flyer]

Watch at 8mins 37s

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... G6Xc#t=519[/youtube]

[Dougan]

There's some nice looking rifles there, especially the first one on the opening post...

...but if you're going to go to the trouble of making a nice looking custom rifle; why not use a decent action?

[meles meles]

Yup, we think a project rifle is definitely in the offing here. Of course, we'll be sticking milsurp through it....

[meles meles]

Is there a better action, squirrel, for the 7.62x54R, than the Mosin Nagant ? Pricewise it's hard to beat, and allows a greater portion of the overall budget to be spent on the barrel.

[Dougan]

Is there a better action, squirrel, for the 7.62x54R, than the Mosin Nagant ?

Fair enough, but why 7.62 x 54R, when there are better calibers and better actions to shoot them from...

[meles meles]

Better for what ?

Yes, we could spend a zillion pennies on a high end rifle, but in our paws a 7.62x54R rifle may be good enough, and far cheaper. Also, becuase we can: the 7.62x54R seems to be a pretty accurate round and so it would be nice to build a rifle that can shoot to minute of Farmer Giles' waistcoat button without spending a fortune...

[meles meles]

Did we mention low cost fodder too ?

[Dougan]

Did we mention low cost fodder too ?

I made 40 .303 and 30 6.5 x 55 today - they work out at about 23p each (not including cases, but the second hand press and dies have already payed for themselves)...so my ammo for tomorrow is just over £16...

...how much will you be paying for 70 rounds of 7.62 x 54?

[kennyc]

Did we mention low cost fodder too ?

I made 40 .303 and 30 6.5 x 55 today - they work out at about 23p each (not including cases, but the second hand press and dies have already payed for themselves)...so my ammo for tomorrow is just over £16...

...how much will you be paying for 70 rounds of 7.62 x 54?

are those cast boolit rounds ? my 7.5x55 and .308 cost that for powder alone!

[meles meles]

...how much will you be paying for 70 rounds of 7.62 x 54?

Oh we can get 100 rounds of nice Russian ammunition in its ikkle sealed packets for the same price as your 70 rounds of paw loads. Even full price, 100 rounds of 7.62x54R can be had for around £25 / 100 from many dealers. WE'll concede your paw loads may group better, Russian standard service ammo is only specified to hold 4 MoA. Bulgarian surplus will often do better, and East German always does.