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Re: grouse shooting poll
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:14 pm
by Andy632
dromia wrote:I'm off to Scotland for 10 days tomorrow and I'll certainly be murdering some as well as some staggies whilst I'm away.

What have Ross-County done to deserve that????????
http://www.rosscountyfootballclub.co.uk/the-club.aspx
Re: grouse shooting poll
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:24 pm
by JS569
Chuck wrote:Well I'd say YES it SHOULD continue if it would let me.
If it's for the pot then fine, if left to rot then NO. Since I assume most grouse are eaten what's the problem. Don't tell me it's cruel, that's just bollox. CRUEL is slitting an animals throat while someone says a prayer over it, having animals in pens waiting to be killed in the next room or dragging chickens through electrified baths to "stun" them before they hit the machines - not always successful.
I think if people are worried about animal welfare then fine, but get into reality mode and stop picking on a sector that DOES ultimately affect other shooters.
As an aside, I wish to hell those who have a pop at other shooting sport disciplines because THEY do not like it would STFU and think how asking the government to ONCE AGAIN interfere in our sport and ways of life can only have bad and unintended consequences.!
clapclap Well said! Don't tell me that the majority of the meat in our food chain has a better life than a wild grouse or duck or stag and so forth...Then not to mention how other nations treat animals. I am all for responsible management of game but (I'm not accusing anyone here) the ignorance of people to those who shoot for the pot and judge them bl**dy irks me! If you can't generate an informed opinion (or just to lazy to bother) don't wade in
PLEASE vote YES
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:56 pm
by ninja_geezer
Re: PLEASE vote YES
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:43 pm
by Chuck
oh I see it's working now..Voted. YES!
Re: PLEASE vote YES
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:56 pm
by Christel
Voted.
I can see that the YES votes are not that far behind the NO votes.
Re: PLEASE vote YES
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:37 pm
by rickus
voted.
Re: grouse shooting poll
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:25 pm
by dromia
They are from rosshire, nearly as bad as gollachs.
Re: grouse shooting poll
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:57 pm
by Dougan
Sandgroper wrote:Dougan wrote:Difficult one this - as much as I dislike large organised shoots, I'm not sure I can vote to ban grouse shooting altogether...where could that lead with respect to other game shooters and hunters...?
What I would like to see is far more serious controls by the Environment Agency and DEFRA (yes I know that's laughable) to ensure that the management of such estates doesn't impact severely on the rest of the environment; including prosecutions for killing protected species, and the possible introduction of non-toxic shot (people who can afford grouse shooting can afford it)...
...it would reduce the number of grouse bred, and therefore the estates prospects of revenue.....but tough s***!
Not to mention that the management of grouse moors have resulted in increased biodiversity compared to unmanaged moorland.
I think 'have' is the operative word there...
I agree that good estate management can be beneficial to the environment...we have an estate down here that breeds pheasants for shooting, which I don't like, but have to concede that the land is some of the most bio-diverse I've seen in the UK...
...however if an estate's management includes killing every mammal, bird and reptile that may pose a threat to their 'golden grouse'...then that's not exactly great for biodiversity...
Re: grouse shooting poll
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:01 pm
by Dougan
dromia wrote:I'm off to Scotland for 10 days tomorrow and I'll certainly be
murdering some as well as some staggies whilst I'm away.

I was going to comment...but it's time to watch England and Scotland play 'the beautiful game'.....well England anyway... razz
Re: grouse shooting poll
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:14 am
by Blackstuff
Pole closed again now that the Yes's have it :roll: