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ovenpaa wrote:Sorry, not for me, it is a neutered offering for the UK market and leaves me cold. We used to shoot pistol, the law changed, we can no longer shoot pistol. Time to move on is my view.

+1 from me.I don't like these long barrelled pistoly things just don't look right.
But hell if someone else wants one who am i to stop them.

mag41uk wrote:I think it looks a damn sight better than the Taurus lbr I couldn't get on with.
It will be interesting to see how they tackle the issue of not being able to easily convert it back to sec5.
I do have to say I would prefer this over the sgc rifle.
Any idea who is going to import them?
I would be interested in a 40 cal.
Tony

Re: S5 - They're apparently made with the same mech as the SGC rifle so if you hold the lever down the gun will not be cocked.

AFAIK its going to be MidwayUK that import them

John MH wrote:Is it going to get Home Office approval?

Already has according to Mr Starley

Any links about it available yet?

To me like others here it is an abomination and affront to all things holy and the natural order of the universe!

However we are looking at it with the hindsight and experience of having owned and shot "proper" handguns however over the past 16 years since this country abused an innocent minority of its citizens for cheap political gain a whole new cohort of people have come into shooting who have no experience of "proper" handguns. To their new and unjaundiced eyes it is just another firearm to explore, learn to shoot and enjoy so to them I say good luck, if it gets people shooting and sharing a common interest around such anathemas then it has to be good and who are we to foist our prejudices on the up and coming generations of shooters? Is that our legacy?

£1600 retail? Bargain! My last IPSC competition gun was well over two grand, 19 years ago!

I'd have one of these.

mr smith wrote:

ovenpaa wrote:Sorry, not for me, it is a neutered offering for the UK market and leaves me cold. We used to shoot pistol, the law changed, we can no longer shoot pistol. Time to move on is my view.

+1 from me.I don't like these long barrelled pistoly things just don't look right.
But hell if someone else wants one who am i to stop them.

+2 We have silly firearms laws. If you design a product purely to satisfy those laws you end up with a silly firearm.

Just bring it in and bring it on. It may look stupid but if it gets people into the sport then so be it. No point in lamenting how we were screwed because we sat back and said nothing at the time.

As they'll be used to punch paper, it's hard to see what benefits there are over the .22 offerings - apart from being a little bit more fiddly to operate and more expensive to run.

Chuck wrote: No point in lamenting how we were screwed because we sat back and said nothing at the time.

You might have said nothing, but trust me, with what I said and to whom, I'll guarantee you I'm on several "lists"....!! :cheers: bigteeth