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Re: .44 Magnum brass splitting !

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:40 am
by ninja_geezer
I have been watching some videos of annealing brass every 5 or so reloads any thoughts ?

Re: .44 Magnum brass splitting !

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:53 am
by dromia
I would anneal the PPU after their first firing.

A drill, a bit, a blow torch and some tempilaq and you are good to go.

Do a site search I'm sure its been covered in some detail here before.

Re: .44 Magnum brass splitting !

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:27 pm
by phaedra1106
Don't know what happened to my post, whether it didn't post or was pulled for some reason.

Basically PPU pistol brass is not good, I had 100 new from Kranks and several had the same problem after 2 orr 3 firings using 5.4gr of TiteGroup which is a lower load than your Unique.

Best thing I did is buy Starline brass, best pistol case brass you can get, have a look on Danske Gevaer http://danskgevaer.com they have Starline at £18/100

Just dug out the following photo, again, 3 times fired, trimmed to length, chamfered etc. and only 5.4gr of TiteGroup, lovely split. After that one all the PPU cases went into the bin.

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Re: .44 Magnum brass splitting !

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:38 pm
by ninja_geezer
phaedra1106 wrote:Don't know what happened to my post, whether it didn't post or was pulled for some reason.

Basically PPU pistol brass is not good, I had 100 new from Kranks and several had the same problem after 2 orr 3 firings using 5.4gr of TiteGroup which is a lower load than your Unique.

Best thing I did is buy Starline brass, best pistol case brass you can get, have a look on Danske Gevaer http://danskgevaer.com they have Starline at £18/100

Just dug out the following photo, again, 3 times fired, trimmed to length, chamfered etc. and only 5.4gr of TiteGroup, lovely split. After that one all the PPU cases went into the bin.

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Thanks for the advice have had a quick look on the website you left a link for , seems they are out of the cases will try and ring them.

Re: .44 Magnum brass splitting !

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 6:08 pm
by Dougan
I'm not an experienced loader or a metallurgical expert - but I would hazard a guess that the type of crimp on the factory rounds (where it is not just squeezing the rim, but actually re-shaping it) doesn't take well to being re-sized and then roll-crimped; making it unsuitable for reloading...which is a shame, as it makes the factory PPU even more expensive if you can't reload the cases...

Re: .44 Magnum brass splitting !

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 8:12 pm
by phaedra1106
ninja_geezer wrote: Thanks for the advice have had a quick look on the website you left a link for , seems they are out of the cases will try and ring them.
If you get stuck PM me :good:

Re: .44 Magnum brass splitting !

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:42 pm
by ninja_geezer
phaedra1106 wrote:
ninja_geezer wrote: Thanks for the advice have had a quick look on the website you left a link for , seems they are out of the cases will try and ring them.
If you get stuck PM me :good:
Thank you sign92

Re: .44 Magnum brass splitting !

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:47 pm
by ninja_geezer
Dougan wrote:I'm not an experienced loader or a metallurgical expert - but I would hazard a guess that the type of crimp on the factory rounds (where it is not just squeezing the rim, but actually re-shaping it) doesn't take well to being re-sized and then roll-crimped; making it unsuitable for reloading...which is a shame, as it makes the factory PPU even more expensive if you can't reload the cases...
that's about what my thoughts are,its a very strange permanent style factory crimp and on close inspection the splits are all in line with the crimp marks !
like you said its a bummer that you buy the factory rounds and you cannot reuse the brass. sign01

Re: .44 Magnum brass splitting !

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:45 am
by ninja_geezer
phaedra1106 wrote:
ninja_geezer wrote: Thanks for the advice have had a quick look on the website you left a link for , seems they are out of the cases will try and ring them.
If you get stuck PM me :good:
Hi i cannot get at the PM you sent me, it says i am not authorized to do so ?? wtfwtf

Re: .44 Magnum brass splitting !

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:26 am
by phaedra1106
It's because you have to have made 15 posts before you can use the PM system, so get posting!!! :lol: