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Re: New Lapua Brass

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:50 am
by Landy Dave
dromia wrote:BTW have you chronographed those loads?
Tried to but the chronograph did not like them, it is very old and does not like overcast days.

Re: New Lapua Brass

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:53 pm
by Chapuis
I am surprised that you had problems with PPU brass as I have found it to be very good indeed in fact better than one batch of Lapua cases that I had. I was told some time ago by someone who delves into these things that PPU actually source their brass from the same place as Lapua do to manufacture their cases but I cannot confirm that.
It sounds to me that you haven't quite got your reloading right yet and that there was actually nothing wrong with the PPU cases.

Re: New Lapua Brass

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:05 pm
by ovenpaa
I know it is far from scientific however Lapua brass does not feel the same as PPV, Federal also has a slightly different feel to it.

Re: New Lapua Brass

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:43 pm
by dromia
I'd be very interested in the velocity, you are only 2/10ths of a grain short of maximum with that load.

What load did you work up from and were the cases sticking at the start load?

Re: New Lapua Brass

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 9:55 am
by Yorric
Also are you getting pressure signs? 223 is not traditionally hard on cases & can usually be reloaded plenty of times. How did the PPU cases fail?
It would also be a good idea to check headspace lengths of ammo & rifle as you seem to be overworking the brass somehow.
I rarely neck size - usually full length and recently have started to anneal brass after a couple of firings to extend case life & improve neck tension control.
My 308 brass started to crack after quite a few reloads & that prompted me to get into annealing (me being tight fisted & not liking to spend cash).
If you have a neck sizer you will work the brass less. You should only need to neck size, trim & chamfer new cases.
Don't expect expensive brass to last longer than the cheaper PPU it may or may not - all brass work hardens on firing / resizing - your problems are probably down to work hardening rather than brass manufacturer.
I'm currently annealing & full length resizing all my brass as some is newer than others, some is once fired in other rifles etc. Only a couple of thousand to do so am looking at making an automatic annealer to speed it up.

Re: New Lapua Brass

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 3:09 pm
by Landy Dave
I finally got the loads over a chrono and they a a wee bit quick at 3440fps.

So I will work the load up again working up from 22.4 to 24.0 at 0.2 grn intervals as that should keep me under 3280 fps.