Oh dear - another incident

[Thomas Turner]

Are YOU listening UK Government????????

:lol: They only say they are near election time

and

The BBC is run by the government.

They are instructed to magnify firearms incidents.

It wouldn't surprise me if that were true either truly disappoint me but not surprise.

[M1Charles1M]

Are YOU listening UK Government????????

:lol: They only say they are near election time

and

The BBC is run by the government.

They are instructed to magnify firearms incidents.

It wouldn't surprise me if that were true either truly disappoint me but not surprise.

I agree! human nature says that the Beeb have those who are part of the old boy network, or network with left leaning Political types and other control freakery who adopt a back scratching posture, indeed disapointing!

[Chuck]

BBC: "Shooting spree" and then go on to sh1t stir with suicides and other irrrl=elevant crud that only the BBC can dig into.

RT (RT.com) A shooting..." Something you rarely here about on Switzerland....because they rarely happen"!.

Now why has the beeb not been so eloquent in its verbal dysentry when it comes to the cop in Afghanistan who shot and killed around SEVENTEEN people today! http://uk.news.yahoo.com/taliban-attack ... 45234.html

oh yes, don't forget the beeb loves these people!


Sky news also equally stupid with this:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/belfast-rocket ... 09108.html

A WARHEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFS where do they find those jornalists...in assylums?

Meanwhile some guy wants assault weapons banned, even although they were NOT used to kill his kid. Spiteful little man, taking out his grief on the law abiding instead of blaming the REAL culprits, typical liberal blame culture.

And how do you legislate against THIS? http://uk.news.yahoo.com/vegas-strip-sh ... 08605.html .

[Gaz]

Sky news also equally stupid with this:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/belfast-rocket ... 09108.html

A WARHEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFS where do they find those jornalists...in assylums?

http://world.guns.ru/grenade/rus/rpg-7-e.html

Caliber: 40 mm launcher; 40 and 70 - 105mm warheads (depending on the grenade model)

Motes and beams, Chuck, motes and beams.

FWIW the "old boy" network has a lot to answer for, particularly with the BBC. The top echelons of the civil service are still riddled with people who built their careers under the Labour regime and we all know about the concept of "fellow travellers".

[Thomas Turner]

Sensationalizing things and dare I say over reacting?

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/VIDEO-D ... z2MAxxb2Vy

Plymouth City centre has at least 8 stores which sell Airsoft pistols and rilfes, 6 that sell CO2 powered pistols which are replicas of real hanguns, I know they have to take things seriously but teenagers :cool2: In my day two constables would have had a word probably confiscated the thing for having it out in public, but when you consider they probably just bought it and were just being stupid.

May warrant a seperate thread I know but demonstrates what we are saying here too.

[M1Charles1M]

Sensationalizing things and dare I say over reacting?

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/VIDEO-D ... z2MAxxb2Vy

Plymouth City centre has at least 8 stores which sell Airsoft pistols and rilfes, 6 that sell CO2 powered pistols which are replicas of real hanguns, I know they have to take things seriously but teenagers :cool2: In my day two constables would have had a word probably confiscated the thing for having it out in public, but when you consider they probably just bought it and were just being stupid.

May warrant a seperate thread I know but demonstrates what we are saying here too.

I know this stuff is obvious to all but a small section of society but:

In this day and age is it over-reaction? The Police in fairness to them don't always help their own credibility but when they get a random call about youths with a handgun from a member of the public who does not know one end from the other, or how to spot a fake or Co2 Gun, they do not know what they are walking into until they have the situation under control and can then sort it out.

A lot of Gang members are Teenagers. your right in my day the local Police Officer would have taken the gun off you and then told your Dad, who would have sorted it with you, can you risk that in these days?

We may not always agree with the Police, their approaches and attitudes, but they are People doing a job and have to walk into unknown, sometimes dangerous situations, I think I would exercise similar caution.

[Thomas Turner]

If the dialogue was better audable it may be possible to take a fairer view, my wife and daughter were discussing it with me later after I posted, from that I would say that the police are somewhat bound by protocol so fair play to them, the newspapers/media on the other hand by reporting every single event in a sensationalist way are fueling the anti-gun sentiment in society, what's clear is teenagers are not clear (and not just teenagers) on just how police are bound to react these (post 9-11) days, and that shops which sell these things asides from filling in the forms ought to have some sort of indication in the form of signage that brandishing an object which looks remotely like a gun in a public place could have unintended consequences, times have changed and your points are indeed fair and valid Sendit, media all to often make things worse, where if acting responsibly they could improve understanding.

[ovenpaa]

These days with the number of illegal firearms on the streets the police have every reason to take such and event very seriously and they would have been understandably cautious in dealing with the situation. My view is the kids were extremely lucky as it only takes one silly move from them to provoke an extreme response.

[M1Charles1M]

If the dialogue was better audable it may be possible to take a fairer view, my wife and daughter were discussing it with me later after I posted, from that I would say that the police are somewhat bound by protocol so fair play to them, the newspapers/media on the other hand by reporting every single event in a sensationalist way are fueling the anti-gun sentiment in society, what's clear is teenagers are not clear (and not just teenagers) on just how police are bound to react these (post 9-11) days, and that shops which sell these things asides from filling in the forms ought to have some sort of indication in the form of signage that brandishing an object which looks remotely like a gun in a public place could have unintended consequences, times have changed and your points are indeed fair and valid Sendit, media all to often make things worse, where if acting responsibly they could improve understanding.

The Media, Newspapers, TV, some Magazines, etc have little or no interest in reporting objectively or fairly. The Media have one overall objective in common and that is Power. Power to determine how you and I live our lives. Information is Power so if you sensationalise, use emotive language and stir up Public feeling to your point of view you then exercise Power of influence over the Political Agenda and the Politicians DARE NOT ignore that opinion when they only have their own Power base and votes to maintain them in Power at the forfront of their very existance. Common sense and logic are dirty words to the Media. Look at any Media report, on any subject and see what language is commonly used. Where is the emphasis made, what is the tone used, where are the facts not just the conjecture...........I could go on all day? Why are the Press so against Leveson....I think I could hazard a guess?????

[Gaz]

If the dialogue was better audable it may be possible to take a fairer view, my wife and daughter were discussing it with me later after I posted, from that I would say that the police are somewhat bound by protocol so fair play to them, the newspapers/media on the other hand by reporting every single event in a sensationalist way are fueling the anti-gun sentiment in society, what's clear is teenagers are not clear (and not just teenagers) on just how police are bound to react these (post 9-11) days, and that shops which sell these things asides from filling in the forms ought to have some sort of indication in the form of signage that brandishing an object which looks remotely like a gun in a public place could have unintended consequences, times have changed and your points are indeed fair and valid Sendit, media all to often make things worse, where if acting responsibly they could improve understanding.

The Media, Newspapers, TV, some Magazines, etc have little or no interest in reporting objectively or fairly. The Media have one overall objective in common and that is Power. Power to determine how you and I live our lives. Information is Power so if you sensationalise, use emotive language and stir up Public feeling to your point of view you then exercise Power of influence over the Political Agenda and the Politicians DARE NOT ignore that opinion when they only have their own Power base and votes to maintain them in Power at the forfront of their very existance. Common sense and logic are dirty words to the Media. Look at any Media report, on any subject and see what language is commonly used. Where is the emphasis made, what is the tone used, where are the facts not just the conjecture...........I could go on all day? Why are the Press so against Leveson....I think I could hazard a guess?????

Because we don't want mouthbreathers telling us what we can and cannot report. Don't like what Outlet X tells you? Go read a different one, it (used to be) a free country.

Muppet.