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Re: Mosin Nagant M44 (Tula)

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:34 pm
by dirtbag
dromia wrote:They do group better with the bayonet extended.

My favourite is the original M38 without the bayonet, I had a war time manufacture one and looked real rough on the outside but where it mattered on the bolt action and barrel the parts were smoothed and well fitted.

+1 , shoot with the bayo out, they shoot good with the Hungarian silvertip (anti aircraft ammo) Sadly I cannot get hold of any now :/

Also a tula Hex rec m44, quite rare indeed, nice find

Re: Mosin Nagant M44 (Tula)

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:40 pm
by ovenpaa
dirtbag wrote:[shoot with the bayo out, they shoot good with the Hungarian silvertip (anti aircraft ammo) Sadly I cannot get hold of any now
I think the Viking has a few left over for you somewhere ;)

Re: Mosin Nagant M44 (Tula)

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:54 pm
by dirtbag
ovenpaa wrote:
dirtbag wrote:[shoot with the bayo out, they shoot good with the Hungarian silvertip (anti aircraft ammo) Sadly I cannot get hold of any now
I think the Viking has a few left over for you somewhere ;)
Russian lightball (dirty) i can get, but that silvertip was /is the best surplus ammo I have used in all my guns !

Re: Mosin Nagant M44 (Tula)

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:09 pm
by ovenpaa
Peter Lawman had a few cans of Silver tip HB a while back so could be worth a try, also FRS had some heavy ball a bit back.

Re: Mosin Nagant M44 (Tula)

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:05 pm
by bnz41
Hi,

I intend to reload for this one as well, hope to do some test firing this week, Privi + reload + milsurp. Reference the Hex receiver I posted pictures on a Mosin Nagant site to find out any info, I was asked what markings were on the underside of the tang. Stripped it down, tang marks on receiver Tula Hammer stamp+28 (1928) stamped over Tula star+44 (1944) and Tula 1944 barrel. They said nice find so I'm very happy with it, just got to shoot it.

Re: Mosin Nagant M44 (Tula)

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:32 pm
by bnz41
Hi


Shot this at Bisley on the zero range, wow :o you want to see the muzzle flash, folded out the bayonet not a problem (ovenpaa). All 30 bullets in the black, slightly more spread than my mauser, it is only a short barrel. I know distance is not much of a challenge but that was fun. Will have to wait until I can use it on a proper range.

Re: Mosin Nagant M44 (Tula)

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:58 pm
by ovenpaa
The problem I have is with the bayonet folded closed because it is very close to your fingers when supporting the rifle. What ammunition did you use? I know Light ball is cheap but I also had good results at shorter distances with 147 grain S&B's and Vectan SP9 with Magtech primers, it made for a very cheap reload but is dependant on the bore being OK.

If it slugs OK I would certainly try them as a nice alternative to hard hitting milsurp, Christel will have the load details in her log book if you need more information.

Re: Mosin Nagant M44 (Tula)

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:29 pm
by bnz41
I have decided as I have 2 Mosin Nagants to simplify the ammo I use, the m44 will stick with prvi partizan 182gr FMJ BT, and I will reload for the other as I have been. That way cases don't get mixed up in the wrong rifle.

Re: Mosin Nagant M44 (Tula)

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:32 pm
by ovenpaa
I also keep cases to specific rifles, even the AI's in 7.72x51 are kept separate.

Re: Mosin Nagant M44 (Tula)

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:53 pm
by bnz41
Hi looking for advice.

It's been suggested that I should slug the bores on my Mosin's to see if the barrels are .308 or .311 the later being a more common size I'm told. This I will have a go at soon, when I can get the slugs sorted. Having watched this done on you-tube several times, I thought I would use .31 cal black powder ball, as one chap in the US. I can't find them anywhere, looked at fishing weights but they tend not to be lead anymore, as I don't have knowledge of lead casting bullets (I buy mine in ready made sorry) is there another option.

Thanks