No.4 Mk I/3

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No.4 Mk I/3

#1 Post by Gaz »

Anyone ever come across one of these? I'm reading the various Enfield literature at the moment and this strikes me as being the ultimate evolution of the No.4: the Canadian bolt-release system with the cutout in the bolt guide rib, combined with the Mk.2 trigger hung from the receiver, all in a nicely FTR'd package!

So I had a quick look at the usual gun websites but I couldn't see any for sale. Are they particularly rare?
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Gaz wrote:Anyone ever come across one of these? I'm reading the various Enfield literature at the moment and this strikes me as being the ultimate evolution of the No.4: the Canadian bolt-release system with the cutout in the bolt guide rib, combined with the Mk.2 trigger hung from the receiver, all in a nicely FTR'd package!

So I had a quick look at the usual gun websites but I couldn't see any for sale. Are they particularly rare?
I've owned a couple over the years. I don't know the conversion total of these compared to Mk1/2 but they aren't super scarce here in the U.S.
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#3 Post by Rearlugs »

They are not particularly rare but, statistically, Savage No4 Mk1/3s tend to outnumber Long Branch No4 Mk1/3s (about 7 to 1, in the rifles I've come across as a dealer).

During the demobilisation of the allied armies in 1945/6, much Canadian equipment stayed in Europe and many of the Canadian rifles ended up being used as military aid to European countries - hence why so many Long Branches turn up as surplus from Greece, Italy, Belgium, Denmark and other countries. Savages were largely in UK hands (being 100% UK property as a result of lend lease), from whence they were often given away as aid to Empire countries.

It seems that when UK started the big FTR programmes in 1949, No4 Mk1*s were mostly set aside for surplus disposal at the expense of Mk1s - possibly because of the statistically shorter lifespan due to the incidence of bolt rail chipping.
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#4 Post by huntervixen »

Hi Gaz,

Your not going over to the dark side and thinking of buying a "foreign" Enfield are you :flag13: ....why the the Scottish American James Paris Lee and the Remington Arms company would be horrified........oh hang on, wait a minute.......forget everything I said! :lol:

Just had a report back about my old Maltby mate, it's happily spending its retirement running around in fields, firing blanks at middle aged men dressed as Germans I believe!

No offense to any re-enactors here, what ever floats your boat and I'm sure it's good fun.

Cheers, John.
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