7.62 banned at Kingsbury ranges
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7.62 banned at Kingsbury ranges
My club forwards an email from landmarc informing us that 7.62 is now banned on Kingsbury ranges. Does anyone know anything about the background to this?
Re: 7.62 banned at Kingsbury ranges
I know that Landmarc have a p1ss poor reputation in some circles (think G4S level of competance)
Banning one of THE main military rounds on a military range = wtfwtf
It MAY be that some window-licking office based muppet has read the memo about high energy cartridges - had a major brainfart, been unable to get their dvt-sox off in order to do some sums and decided that 7.62 is one notch down on the energy level chart from thermo-nuclear devices
Has anyone actually seen something in writing from them about it? (giving reasons for 7.62 being banned)
Or phoned/e-mailed to ask for clarification?
...just an idea
Banning one of THE main military rounds on a military range = wtfwtf

It MAY be that some window-licking office based muppet has read the memo about high energy cartridges - had a major brainfart, been unable to get their dvt-sox off in order to do some sums and decided that 7.62 is one notch down on the energy level chart from thermo-nuclear devices
Has anyone actually seen something in writing from them about it? (giving reasons for 7.62 being banned)
Or phoned/e-mailed to ask for clarification?
...just an idea
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Re: 7.62 banned at Kingsbury ranges
Use .308 winchester then!
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Re: 7.62 banned at Kingsbury ranges
Sounds very odd, I am not familiar with the Kingsbury range, does it have a limited danger area that could require a rethink on MV/MV? I assume 5,56x45 is still going to be acceptable?
Re: 7.62 banned at Kingsbury ranges
KINGSBURY RANGES TRAINING ESTATE
TECC ID: 3973 Date Entry Updated: 30/11/2009
Company: DTE
Type: DTE
Address:
Kingsbury Ranges
Tamworth
Staffordshire
B78 2DX
Tel.: Mil: 94486 8433/34
Civ: 01785 760643
Fax: 01785 760158
Email: wmswybookings@landmarc.mod.uk
STC Region: Wales & West (WW)
Map Link: http://www.multimap.co
Overview of Capability
Grid Reference: 139/SP222957 HLS: SP224957
Facilities:
a. 25m range
b. ET(CG)R 600yds (12 lanes) with AMS
c. Gallery 600yds (10 lanes)
Contact and Bids:
Booking Cell;
Swynnerton Trg Area;
Cold Meece;
STONE;
Staffs;
ST15 0QN.
Mil: 94486 8433/34
Civ: 01785 760643
Fax: 94486 8435
Fax: 01785 760158
E Mail: wmswybookings@landmarc.mod.uk DTE Landmarc WM-Bookings (WM)
Accommodation: Bivouac Area Remarks: Night Shooting allowed Tues/Thu/Sat
TECC ID: 3973 Date Entry Updated: 30/11/2009
Company: DTE
Type: DTE
Address:
Kingsbury Ranges
Tamworth
Staffordshire
B78 2DX
Tel.: Mil: 94486 8433/34
Civ: 01785 760643
Fax: 01785 760158
Email: wmswybookings@landmarc.mod.uk
STC Region: Wales & West (WW)
Map Link: http://www.multimap.co
Overview of Capability
Grid Reference: 139/SP222957 HLS: SP224957
Facilities:
a. 25m range
b. ET(CG)R 600yds (12 lanes) with AMS
c. Gallery 600yds (10 lanes)
Contact and Bids:
Booking Cell;
Swynnerton Trg Area;
Cold Meece;
STONE;
Staffs;
ST15 0QN.
Mil: 94486 8433/34
Civ: 01785 760643
Fax: 94486 8435
Fax: 01785 760158
E Mail: wmswybookings@landmarc.mod.uk DTE Landmarc WM-Bookings (WM)
Accommodation: Bivouac Area Remarks: Night Shooting allowed Tues/Thu/Sat
Re: 7.62 banned at Kingsbury ranges
Contact NRA immediately - Iain is off today but will see this later and not sure who should deal with it - probably Heather? Send them all info you have as this is very bad
Chris Webb would have been the man as Regional Manager but someone made him redundant!
Love
Karen
Chris Webb would have been the man as Regional Manager but someone made him redundant!
Love
Karen
Re: 7.62 banned at Kingsbury ranges
Following is the email I sent to the East & West Midlands regional reps:
The following notice is about to go up on our website. Club secretary’s in your area may already have had the notification from Landmarc. We have been unable to get any further information at this time but Iain is on the case.
Kingsbury Range
For safety reasons and pending possible compliance work on the range, please note that the use of 7.62/308 calibre and greater have been suspended. This is expected to remain in place for some months. Further information will be distributed as we get it.
Heather
The following notice is about to go up on our website. Club secretary’s in your area may already have had the notification from Landmarc. We have been unable to get any further information at this time but Iain is on the case.
Kingsbury Range
For safety reasons and pending possible compliance work on the range, please note that the use of 7.62/308 calibre and greater have been suspended. This is expected to remain in place for some months. Further information will be distributed as we get it.
Heather
Re: 7.62 banned at Kingsbury ranges
ovenpaa wrote:Sounds very odd, I am not familiar with the Kingsbury range, does it have a limited danger area that could require a rethink on MV/MV? I assume 5,56x45 is still going to be acceptable?
Jamie, who'll be at Barton Road on Saturday, shoots at Kingsbury. Last time I spoke to him, which is only four weeks ago, Kingsbury was cleared for 338 Lapua use by civilians. Something must have seriously changed since then!
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Thanks Heather.
The phrase some months at least suggests that they are going to sort out what ever problem they think they have. I wonder if the NRA could suggest to them that we could use Whittington Barracks range while they sort themselves out?
The phrase some months at least suggests that they are going to sort out what ever problem they think they have. I wonder if the NRA could suggest to them that we could use Whittington Barracks range while they sort themselves out?
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Re: 7.62 banned at Kingsbury ranges
My club sec. sent me a message about this... its to do with work they're having done; its for a period of 4-6 months, so there will be no civi shooting on there in this time.
Email I received...
Email I received...
I have received an e mail from Landmarc saying that Kingsbury is closed to all civilians for the next 4 to 6 months. It is for alterations to the range. At the moment, they will not give any further information. They put Jim Salisbury’s number on it and that’s where I got this basic info from. The e mail says “7.62” but the secretary I spoke to said that this covers “equivalent” ammo as the range will be completely closed.
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