A Max's now categorised as expanding ammunition

[Robin128]

What do you use A max's for Spud?

[Chapuis]

This is all very interesting as there was a similar debate on The Stalking Directory about 18 months ago regarding using A-Max for stalking. I emailed Hornady and the reply that I got back from them was that A-Max were a target bullet and had not been designed as an expanding bullet. They also stated that they had never tested them for expansion.

You have to be very careful just how you word any question to Hornady regarding the use of bullets for hunting because there is no legislation in the states that requires the use of expanding ammunition so they tend to think of FMJ as suitable for hunting also, hence the conflicting guidance given in previous reloading manuals regarding suitability. None the less I can see this stance by certain police forces as opening up a whole can of worms.

[spud]

target and foxing

[Robin128]

Chapuis ... This country can be so anal!

:evil:

Exactly Spud...what do you reckon on A Max's expansion attributes?

Have you ever considered using V Max for both purposes???

[Sim G]

Unfortunately, the Hornady site now describes A-maxes as; (See the first "bullet" point)

A-MAX® NOW featuring AMP™ bullet jackets!
Designed by match shooters for match shooters. With an ultra-low drag tip, our A-Max match bullets feature an aerodynamic secant ogive that delivers flat trajectories with excellent uniformity and concentricity. Find out more...

.Rapid, explosive expansion with limited penetration.
.Recommended muzzle velocity range: 2000+ fps.
.These bullets are not recommended for hunting medium and large game.


A-maxes in target applications in the UK may have had their day....... I've still got a couple of hundred! :cool2:

[Robin128]

Do some clubs not allow 'expanding' ammo?

:G

[ronboy]

Hi during the course of a year I shoot about 4-5K hard lead flat nosed bullets from a couple of underlever rifles. Due to the bullet touching the case in front, it has to be flat nosed and the primers below the surface of the case. I did have some bullets with a dimple in the nose to clear any raised primers. Can anyone say if any of these are considered expanding ammo. Ronboy

[tikkathreebarrels]

This is a very confusing issue. Hornady need to confirm whether the AMax is expanding or not and FLA's need to accept that confirmation. End of issue surely? It isn't for one FLA to make unilateral decisions which could quite possibly be founded on nothing more than surmise and subjective opinion.

My understanding of the difference 'twixt AMax and VMax is that the latter has a space behind the root of the polymer tip into which it can push on impact and expand.

I use AMax in 6BR and .308 so if anyone needs to offload 105gn 6mm or 155gn .308 maybe I can help.

FWIW I have one experience of using .308 AMax on fallow and vowed that I would never do it again. Never.

I'm seeing my local fla this week: I'll seek Suffolk's standpoint on this.

[ovenpaa]

I'm seeing my local fla this week: I'll seek Suffolk's standpoint on this.

...and I will speak to Beds and Herts Tuesday and see what they say.

[Robin128]

Hi during the course of a year I shoot about 4-5K hard lead flat nosed bullets from a couple of underlever rifles. Due to the bullet touching the case in front, it has to be flat nosed and the primers below the surface of the case. I did have some bullets with a dimple in the nose to clear any raised primers. Can anyone say if any of these are considered expanding ammo. Ronboy

Not up on lead boolits in underlevers...but I know someone that is...Dromia!