Guns of a Train (not a Samual Jackson Film)

[Tower75]

My Lords, Ladies and Gentleman.

Can I ask something? Is there anything illegal about transporting firearms on public transport, such as a train? I don't mean slinging a Lee-Enfield over your shoulder or anything. But if all firearms and equipment are covered-up and kept on you, would this be acceptable in the law does anyone know?

Regards
T

[ovenpaa]

First step has to be to ask the train provider as they may not allow the carriage of firearms regardless of what the law says. We move firearms by ferry fairly often and the British side of things displays all the paranoia we have grown to expect and love. We have to discreetly remove our firearms from the car in a dark corner, they are then taken by unmarked vehicle to the ferry before any vehicles are allowed on. Same coming into the country, the car deck has to be empty before they are moved and we are not allowed access to the rifles until we are out of the terminal, in fact they return the rifles in a car pull in by a security point.

Denmark is oh so different in this respect...

[20series]

There was some talk of a complete ban of transporting firearms on Trains last year but as I recall the decision was to leave it to the individual companies.

As already suggested I would be tempted to speak to the comany you intend to use directly.

Alan

[Porcupine]

Not illegal. I asked my FEO this as I catch the train to a smallbore rifle range nearby. He said it's not illegal but the train operator probably does ban weapons on board so if you got caught you could be asked to leave so try to carry in a nondescript slip or bag - not one with "Remington Shooting Sports" emblazoned down the sides or something :lol: But, as the Americans say, 'concealed means concealed' so nobody should know anyway.

[Dangermouse]

I have a friend (honest) who has musical stickers on his gun case, at first glance you would think it was an instrument. Clearly to pull this off you should not be dressed head to toe in camouflage gear!

DM

[dave_303]

A friend of mine does it slightly less descretely, he is a Napoleonic re-enactor, so he goes in full kit but with his bess covered up

[Robin128]

Depends on the rail company...Individual train companies can forbid passengers to transport guns under their terms and conditions. It is not illegal (but see below) to carry guns properly covered by your FAC/SGC, but you could be kicked off at the next station and you may be approached by BTP.

Check...there was a rail company that banned them recently.

http://www.sportinggun.co.uk/news/51138 ... rains.html

s19 Firearms Act...

A person commits an offence if, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse (the proof whereof lies on him) he has with him in a public place

(a) loaded shot gun,
(b) an air weapon (whether loaded or not),
(c) any other firearm (whether loaded or not) together with ammunition suitable for use in that firearm, or
(d) an imitation firearm.

There is no statutory definition of either of the two terms in blue.

http://www.basc.org.uk/en/utilities/doc ... 879B2489F0

[mr smith]

Depends on the rail company...Individual train companies can forbid passengers to transport guns under their terms and conditions.

As above.However i would just be discrete,the chances are most staff wouldn't know the rules anyway.

[Tower75]

Thanks, guys.

The firearm I had in mind was my .44 BP revolver, so I can just pop that in my "man bag". Nonchalant-ness; got it down.

Cheers, again.

Regards
T

[Robin128]

So long as it doesn't get pinched...you might have some explaining to do.

And I wonder what the T&Cs are about carrying gun powder/caps on a train...not to mention the law.

:)