New laws coming?

[artiglio]

That the consultation is so badly written / evidenced peversely adds weight to the "foregone conclusion" train of thought. Having chosen to go for such a small section of the shooting community resistance will be relatively insignificant, the mod having stopped use of field firing ranges adds to the idea of a perceived problem and efectively means there is nowhere to use a .50 in the manner intended.
Hopefully when the proposed legislation comes before parliament there will at least be some meaningful questionning from mp's who are right minded enough to be signposts and not flags, however there will no doubt be insufficiently few of them to overturn a vote in favour.
After that you would hope that the shooting organisations fund a judicial review, done properly I would like to think that there is a chance of success on the grounds of the lack of evidential justification. However if the MOD's review of the use of .50's on their land , by civilians,is such that use is severely restricted or ceased then good reason for ownership is much curtailed.
As an aside, in my letter to my mp, I asked why ,when faced with a supposed threat of terrorist aquisition and use of the firearms covered by the legislation , it was proposed to ban such firearms, surely for there to be such assessed risk other measures were more appropriate in a modern society,
In that curtailing the currently lawful activities of a countries citizens instead of dealing with the threat directly, was effectively giving in to terrorism. If the goverment is unable/unwilling to protect its citizens by either detaining or monitoring those considered to be a risk, then the next course of action should be to fund / implement measures that allow the law abiding to continue their way of life.

Society has some strange values, this weekend and a coiple of weeks back we've had plenty of news coverage of two horrendous road traffic accidents in whic a total of 11 people have died, in one the vehicle was stolen and hit a tree in the second a multiple vehicle collision resulted in carnage, which though still to be investigated, from the news coverage posted speed limits seemed to be 40mph, given the damage and death toll excess speed seems to likely to be an issue. However there was instead talk of time since the last gritting.
We hear endlessly from spokespeople of the sympathy and compassion felt for thosevthat lose loved ones, but never hear after an investigation of such events words to the effect that the senseless irresponsible actions of an individual has resulted in a loss of life and bought great distress to many. Or ofvthe criminal history ofvthe wrong doer. Whilst there is no need to speak ill of the dead, there is similarly no need to gloss over the poor character of those who cause such great suffering, otherwise we normalise those who act in such a manner.

[Blackstuff]

My renewal is imminent, I've applied for a variation during the renewal. I've asked for a 9mm lever release, it will be interesting to see if it's granted.

It'll be interesting to see if you get one of those letters they put in with LBR/LBP's and lever-release/MARS rifles when they first came out saying "This gun type is under review and you will not be paid compensation if it reclassified to Section 5"

[Sim G]

I remember those letters with LBRs, but not with lever release...

[Blackstuff]

I got one with my LBR, lever-release and MARS variations, but not my LBP

Well that's not strictly true, the one that came with my MARS gun is so badly written with double negatives it actually says they WILL pay compo!

[James84]

That's really interesting, I hadn't heard about that before. I didn't get one of these letters when I put in a variation for my MARS.

It's also interesting that the supporting documents for this consultation state that if this goes through then the cost to Government will be compensation for the confiscated firearms. Seems like a significant contradiction that further adds to the apparent bodge job persona of this consultation.

[Berger]

I recently had my FEO visit - renewal - when the .50cal subject came up he said "that is a foregone conclusion".

Not sure he knows more than others, just that it makes sense that it will happen.

this FEO has stuck his neck out with comments like that.i bet shooters are still putting variations for 50 cals and getting them granted clapclap

[The Event]

I know that the police would like to make the law, but I'm still pretty sure that the decision on whether compensation will be paid will not be made by them.

[Berger]

Maybe all us shooters should do a variation each for a 50 cal and a mars rifle clapclap

[HALODIN]

I'll keep you posted!

My renewal is imminent, I've applied for a variation during the renewal. I've asked for a 9mm lever release, it will be interesting to see if it's granted.

It'll be interesting to see if you get one of those letters they put in with LBR/LBP's and lever-release/MARS rifles when they first came out saying "This gun type is under review and you will not be paid compensation if it reclassified to Section 5"

[Hrun]

I know that the police would like to make the law, but I'm still pretty sure that the decision on whether compensation will be paid will not be made by them.

This government just agreed to pay the EU 40 billion simply to be able to discuss a future trade agreement..

If this cost them 10 million, no-one will blink and they will be a step closer to total disarmament..

Most politicians would consider it a bargain!