Can someone identify the mould used to cast this bullet?

This section is for reloading and ammunition only, all loads found in here are used strictly at your own risk, if in doubt ask again.
All handloading data posted on Full-Bore UK from 23/2/2021 must reference the published pressure tested data it was sourced from, posts without such verification will be removed.
Any existing data without such a reference should treated as suspect and not used.

Moderator: dromia

Forum rules
All handloading data posted on Full-Bore UK from 23/2/2021 must reference the published pressure tested data it was sourced from, posts without such verification will be removed.
Any existing data without such a reference should be treated as suspect and not used.

Use reloading information posted here at your own risk. This forum (http://www.full-bore.co.uk) is not responsible for any property damage or personal injury as a consequence of using reloading data posted here, the information is individual members findings and observations only. Always verify the load data and be absolutely sure your firearm can handle the load, especially older ones. If in doubt start low and work your way up.
Message
Author
User avatar
farmer7
Posts: 124
Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:17 pm
Home club or Range: Inverness-shire
Contact:

Can someone identify the mould used to cast this bullet?

#1 Post by farmer7 »

Just wondered if someone can identify the mould used to cast this bullet please? It's a GM bullet from Kranks, 180gr TC .358.

It is by far and away the best shooting cast bullet in my Marlin so far with several powder/speed/range combinations. The only thing is they're VERY hard and I fancied getting hold of the mould and casting some myself in a softer alloy.

Alternatively if someone has the same mould and would be willing to sell some softer bullets I'd be interested in that too.

Many thanks.
Attachments
20170911_234629_crop_1024x768.jpg
User avatar
dromia
Site Admin
Posts: 20229
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:57 am
Home club or Range: The Highlands of Scotland. Cycling Proficiency 1964. Felton & District rifle club. Teesdale Pistol and Rifle club.
Location: Sutherland and Co Durham
Contact:

Re: Can someone identify the mould used to cast this bullet?

#2 Post by dromia »

Looks like a Magma 38-158 FP BB.
Image

Come on Bambi get some

Imperial Good Metric Bad
Analogue Good Digital Bad

Fecking stones

Real farmers don't need subsidies

Cow's farts matter!

For fine firearms and requisites visit

http://www.pukkabundhooks.com/
User avatar
farmer7
Posts: 124
Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:17 pm
Home club or Range: Inverness-shire
Contact:

Re: Can someone identify the mould used to cast this bullet?

#3 Post by farmer7 »

Thanks very much!
User avatar
farmer7
Posts: 124
Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:17 pm
Home club or Range: Inverness-shire
Contact:

Re: Can someone identify the mould used to cast this bullet?

#4 Post by farmer7 »

Just looked them up, they ship to the UK but $400 dollar export fee to pay first. Anyone know of any stockists of Magma? Or a mould similar to it?
User avatar
dromia
Site Admin
Posts: 20229
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:57 am
Home club or Range: The Highlands of Scotland. Cycling Proficiency 1964. Felton & District rifle club. Teesdale Pistol and Rifle club.
Location: Sutherland and Co Durham
Contact:

Re: Can someone identify the mould used to cast this bullet?

#5 Post by dromia »

Magma moulds are mainly made for their casting machines, in fact most volume commercial bullets in the UK will come from Magma machines and moulds. Hand operated versions are expensive and consequently pretty rare especially over here.

I suggest that you have a look at Accurate moulds listing they may have a copy already, if not Tom will make you one to your specification at no extra cost, just send him drawings and specs or just some bullets and he will take it from there. I wouldn't get the bevel base though just go for a plain base version.
Image

Come on Bambi get some

Imperial Good Metric Bad
Analogue Good Digital Bad

Fecking stones

Real farmers don't need subsidies

Cow's farts matter!

For fine firearms and requisites visit

http://www.pukkabundhooks.com/
User avatar
dodgyrog
Posts: 4103
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:17 pm
Home club or Range: Three Counties Sporting Club & Gardners Guns
Location: Consett, County Durham
Contact:

Re: Can someone identify the mould used to cast this bullet?

#6 Post by dodgyrog »

SAECO do a very similar one - my SAECO moulds always throw good boolits
Purveyor of fine cast boolits.
All round good guy and VERY grumpy old man.
User avatar
Mauserbill
Full-Bore UK Supporter
Posts: 1204
Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:49 pm
Home club or Range: Range
Contact:

Re: Can someone identify the mould used to cast this bullet?

#7 Post by Mauserbill »

Why do you want to shoot soft lead alloy in your Marlin.
If its got micro bore rifling you could end up with a leaded barrel.
A soft lead and high velocity combination would lead to very poor accuracy
because the rifling would strip the bullet before exiting the muzzle
User avatar
dromia
Site Admin
Posts: 20229
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:57 am
Home club or Range: The Highlands of Scotland. Cycling Proficiency 1964. Felton & District rifle club. Teesdale Pistol and Rifle club.
Location: Sutherland and Co Durham
Contact:

Re: Can someone identify the mould used to cast this bullet?

#8 Post by dromia »

Mauserbill wrote:Why do you want to shoot soft lead alloy in your Marlin.
If its got micro bore rifling you could end up with a leaded barrel.
A soft lead and high velocity combination would lead to very poor accuracy
because the rifling would strip the bullet before exiting the muzzle
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!
Image

Come on Bambi get some

Imperial Good Metric Bad
Analogue Good Digital Bad

Fecking stones

Real farmers don't need subsidies

Cow's farts matter!

For fine firearms and requisites visit

http://www.pukkabundhooks.com/
hobbesy
Posts: 630
Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:56 pm
Contact:

Re: Can someone identify the mould used to cast this bullet?

#9 Post by hobbesy »

If you say this is the same bullet then it's made/distributed by Hannam's reloading and is 180gn .35cal Truncated Cone.

Hope this helps
Attachments
2017-09-12 16.58.20.jpg
S&W M&P 15-22
Stoeger Sec 1
Adler a110 Sec 1
Winchester 94 .357,
Marlin 45-70
Savage 10 FP-SR .223
AI AE .308
.357 Westlake Alpha

Have slots open for.....
.22 LB pistol
.22LR rifle
FredB
Posts: 969
Joined: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:33 pm
Home club or Range: stourport
Location: Wolverhampton
Contact:

Re: Can someone identify the mould used to cast this bullet?

#10 Post by FredB »

Barrel leading is caused by shooting hard, undersized bullets. The use of very hard bullets in the UK started in the pistol shooting days when soft bullets fired at high velocity would upset in the forcing cone of a revolver and cause both leading and lead spitting. Many rifles have tapers at the end of the chamber and the bullet needs to be soft enough to set up quickly and prevent the flame front from passing down the side of it and melting the lead surface.
The "lead bullets need deep rifling" myth has been about for years and in fact the opposite is true. Super accurate target .22 rifles use micro groove rifling. The Enfield muzzle loaders chucking out more than an ounce of lead use shallow rifling of variable depth which is very shallow indeed by the time it reaches the muzzle. Superbly accurate tools!
Fred
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests