Police and Crime Commissioner Election UK

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Re: Police and Crime Commissioner Election UK

#11 Post by ordnance »

saddler wrote:U.K.?
No such election/role up here.
Not in this part of the UK either.
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#12 Post by tisme »

Ukip reply

Dear Mr .....
My sincere apologies for my response having for some reason not reached you.

I myself was a Bisley shot, rated in the Army top 100. I am also a qualified army skill at arms instructor and range manager. I have been shooting since the age of 13 and very much enjoy doing so - both pistol and rifle. I am also a great supporter of the traditional British way of life including country sports, so long as they do not threaten the existence of species and serve a practical management benefit.

Having said that, I am also very well aware of the risks of gun ownership in the community and wish to see very thoroughly applied oversight to ensure that firearms do not fall into the hands of those who, for whatever reason, may misuse them.

As you rightly point out Kent police have a poor record of providing a service to firearms and shotgun licence holders and this is covered in my manifesto which was launched on Sunday 3rd April (you'll find a copy of it available on http://www.henrybolton.org at the top left of the home page). The bottom paragraph of page 5 states: "I will request that Kent Police undertake a review of present firearms licensing procedures, monitoring and related resources with the aim of making the quality and efficiency of Kent's service provision regarding firearms licences an example of excellence for other forces."

I am also perfectly happy to be quoted as stating that I will require that adequate resources are applied to meet this task.

I hope this answers your question, but if not, or if you have any further questions on this or any other subject, please get back to me.

Best regards,

Henry Bolton
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Re: Police and Crime Commissioner Election UK

#13 Post by IsleShoot »

These PCC elections don't appear to be getting a lot of attention within the shooting community.

This is probabily the licensed shooting community's best opportunity to directly influence the management of firearms licensing yet very few shooters appear bothered by it?

No point folk moaning about poor service from their firearm depts if they're not willing to engage in the political process.
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Re: Police and Crime Commissioner Election UK

#14 Post by Christel »

IsleShoot wrote:These PCC elections don't appear to be getting a lot of attention within the shooting community.

This is probabily the licensed shooting community's best opportunity to directly influence the management of firearms licensing yet very few shooters appear bothered by it?

No point folk moaning about poor service from their firearm depts if they're not willing to engage in the political process.
I am wondering if it is a lack of exposure? The first time I heard of it was when I received my polling card for postal voting, then awhile later I received the actual postal vote which I have just returned. There is info online about it however if one does not know about it... 8-)
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#15 Post by IsleShoot »

Taken from the Association of Police & Crime Commissioners website;

The role of the PCCs is to be the voice of the people and hold the police to account. They are responsible for the totality of policing.

So when your waiting weeks for your renewal, or when we're threaten with unreasonable fee hikes, or even when Plod starts lumping licenced firearm users in with criminals as they are prone to doing when advertising their amnesties and initiatives, the PCC is the guy or girl who's there to fight our corner.

As a community we have a powerful mandate at local level and we can put candidates who suit our agenda into position but only if we can mobilise our vote.
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Re: Police and Crime Commissioner Election UK

#16 Post by Les »

I got my voting card weeks ago, and will definitely be voting on the 5th May. :good:
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#17 Post by IsleShoot »

Point to note, the Home Office has only spent £2,700 promoting the PCC elections, yep two thousand seven hundred pounds! Had they followed the Electoral Commission's recommendations they would have to have spent circa £9 million! Hmmm I wonder where that money got spent? In 2013 they spent £3 million on a TV campaign alone.

Theresa May wants these elections to go unnoticed and where possible for Conservative PCC's to remain in post so she can keep pushing her own agenda and we all know what that is.
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#18 Post by falco67 »

Tony Harper who is standing in Nottinghamshire is definitely pro shooting.

"I still shoot .762 target rifle for the police sports club and attend shoots around the country.
I believe respected qualified people should own and shoot firearms. I have enjoyed it for over 38 years!"
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Re: Police and Crime Commissioner Election UK

#19 Post by Christel »

Firearms licencing should be properly resourced. In Lincolnshire we have many involved in farming or rural businesses who need their guns as an integral part of managing their land. There are also many who enjoy shooting for sport. Currently the waiting time to renew or get new licences is unacceptable and this has caused huge inconvenience to many.

G4s I believe, lack the man power and resources to cope with this important job. It is essential that the correct checks are done to weed out potential threats and I would not want there to be any short cuts in this respect. I believe the best solution is to put the job back directly in the hands of the Police who used to do it quicker yet still took all necessary precautions.

There are proposed new E.U. gun law regulations to include stiffer medical checks in response to recent terrorist attacks. This seems pointless as we already have strict rules in place and it is not going to make any difference to terrorists obtaining illegal weapons anyway.



I hope this answers your concerns, but please let me know if you want more information. Please feel free to contact me if you wish to discuss further, my mobile number is 07764536867.


yours sincerely


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Re: Police and Crime Commissioner Election UK

#20 Post by 450 Martini »

I had this through from Matthew Ellis the conservative candidate standing for re-election in Staffordshire.

"I've received several dozen similar emails from gun owners so I've copied below the reply I have made to all of them. I hope it helps with your question.

Here's the reply I've sent...

As a very occasional clay pigeon shooting participant I have no issue with legal and responsible use.

Clearly it is for Parliament to decide legislation around firearms but it's fair to say there are easier to obtain potentially lethal weapons from cars to knifes to swords and drugs.

All that said I wouldn't support an American style free for all but then I suspect the vast majority of shooting sport participants in the UK wouldn't either. Thanks for your enquiry.

Matthew Ellis
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