Wearing a MTP Camouflage Jacket while shooting on a range

[snayperskaya]

Hya Tovarisch....

"Gorka" is Russian for mountain and there are a number of producers of this gear, the best of the bunch being SSO/SPOSN who supply the Russian military.

Just in case .... I use a Splav-3, so I have a spare SPOSN set size 54/176, virtually new, if :
a) it's your size,
b) if you want to swap for a Afghanka ?

Cheerio,
yves

If it was a 56 I'd be tempted Tovarisch, I no longer have the sand colour Afganka as it was a bit small and I dropped on a nice VSR-93 in three-colour "Dubok" (Little Oak) pattern that was Chechen War issued and filthy!!! (four cycles in washing machine brought it up nice though) to go with the Border Guard jacket and the 1986-dated KZS Berezka snipers oversuit, which I hasten to add I've never worn to any range!.
Have got a contact in Moscow keeping an eye out for a nice original KLMK oversuit for me, a lot of the ones on Ebay etc are commercial copies or overpriced!.I prefer the Soviet-Afghan era kit as it ties in nicely with all the Dragunov kit I have which is all 1980s Afghanistan issue.......you buy just one mag pouch and it sort of snowballs!.

[dromia]

Take this off forum.

The Exchange is the place for swaps.

[Maggot]

A colleague of mine wears his UBACS over his nipple piercing, it looks dreadful.

Bloody well will if it catches....yeeowch!!

[breacher]

At my home club the rule is unless you are a serving soldier in uniform, one item of camouflage clothing is fine - but head-to-toe is not.

Why would a serving person be wearing uniform when not at work, if your club rule is over 20 years old it was pointless when it started. As no one was allowed to wear uniform off duty or when traveling for obvious reasons.
Nothing wrong with a bit of camo clothing if is functional but dressing up and Walting is a no no.

I bet if it was tweed nothing would have been said.

If wearing full camo is walting ( pretending to be something you are not ) would a working class, council housed man wearing full tweed be accused of trying to pretend he was upper class ?

Funny, if yoe wear camo you are a walt. Yet overweight slobs who could not play professional football to save their lives, can wear a tracksuit of their favourite football team without being called a walt or wannabe footballer.

[breacher]

I find this entire hang-up about camo hilarious because :

- I don't judge people on what they wear,

- Camo were not actually issued when I was in the army, (but had private Squad purchased camo gortex), so I could actually wear all the kit I "liberated" and no one would bat an eyelid,

- When ever I am shooting in Czech Rep, Slovakia or Poland, a lot of shooters wear camo stuff. Unlike in the UK, nobody think they are "impersonating" anything other than shooters wearing good cheap out-doors stuff with a slight macho look. Men are still men in the Visegrad group countries and want to look hard as nails

- I do keep a US Woodland goretex at the bottom of my shooting bag and a DMP one in the back of the car for emergency waterproof & I own couple of UBAC shirts (best stuff for dynamic shooting).

- However you see more camo stuff in the high street or in trendy clubs at any given time than on a shooting range,

- so now, I don't really wear camo , not because people might think I am a hipster or because it is the preferred outfit of French "red-neck" but because green is actually way-waaay cooler.

- So, the only military stuff I occasionally wear is Gorka gear (green with re-enforced brown patches). Nobody knows it, but it is the favoured private purchase of SF & Interior Minister Russian troops so I can be a uber Spetsnaz Waltz impersonator & actually get complemented on it, asked where to source it and sometimes have the p1ss-taken by Breacher when I end-up completely soaked in it .

No more p*** taking Yves - I invested in a Gorka jacket - love it !!!!!

[Dark Skies]

I find this entire hang-up about camo hilarious because :

- I don't judge people on what they wear,

Yes, decent people are like that: Sadly the liberals, gun haters and the shallow and self obsessed, uneducated terminally incontinent, confused and scared public who believe the media lies are not.

So probably unlikely to see them at the range then.

[Chuck]

Exactly, why would gun haters be at the range to see anyone wearing kit in the first place?

[DaveB]

At my home club the rule is unless you are a serving soldier in uniform, one item of camouflage clothing is fine - but head-to-toe is not.

Let me clarify my earlier post. By 'camouflage' I meant DPM or other military-style camouflage pattern. We have a lot of duck hunters and deer-stalkers here in NZ, and Realtree and Treebark and other camouflage patterns that are obviously civilian and not military, are generally not subject to the same advice.

[breacher]

So, let me get this straight - wearing military type clothing is frowned upon for "perception issues" ? Those wearing it might be walts ?

Yet, if anybody mentions "perception issues" relating to military type firearms, they get told they are prejudiced ? Is someone who chooses a AR type .22 over a Ruger 10/22 ( despite them being available in the same calibre and capacity ) a walt too ?

What about those who festoon their .22 AR with tactical items ? Are they walts too ?

What about those who paint their rifles in desert camo patterns ? I can understand woodland type camo on a hunting rifle but on a target rifle unlikely ever to see the desert ? Is the owner a walt ?

Double standards ?

As to who REALLY has the problem with shooters wearing camo ? Its NOT non-shooters. Its other SHOOTERS - those who shoot their own type of competition but have no TOLERANCE for other types of the same sport.

[polemass]

Breacher-try to think from other direction plz.... maybe for some folks who served,you have to EARN it....simple
I earned it,but have a policy "one piece only" for myself....