EU to propose banning semi auto "weapons"

[ordnance]

Obviously, in the UK, we have already penalised our people by denying them access to full bore semi-automatic rifle and to pistols (except in northern Ireland where no one ever misused a gun ??? really),

You caint get full bore semi/auto rifles in NI.

[hitchphil]

We need to act more than discuss see attached these are the people that need to understand your / our views, we are preaching to each other as already converted here, this lot need to understand what we feel about their naff ideas - politely as the doc says i think is fair call.

go for it ................

[Countryman]

Basc seem to be the only folk doing anything about this...of course it won't effect Bisleys target rifle pimms brigade...

Stop turning on each other! We are all shooters.

The NRA have issued a statement and an open letter to MEP's but as a charity are precluded from campaigning.

BASC have done well and so have The Countryside Alliance.

[Blackstuff]

Can anyone attach a PDF to their post? My work computer hates this site and barely lets me surf it, let alone upload a file. An excellent response to the directive has been drafted by an actual firearms expert and would make the perfect basis for people to write letters/emails etc.

If you can, please PM me your email address so i can send you the file.

[artiglio]

another response,

Dear Phil,

EU Firearms Proposals

Thank you for writing to me on this issue. The Commission draft has not yet reached the parliament, so we are not in a position to comment on the detail. However two points are very clear.

First, the weapons used in the Paris atrocity, and more generally the weapons used in most terrorist attacks, are illegally-held weapons. Changing the law on gun ownership is therefore unlikely to have any significant impact on the availability of weapons to terrorists. Indeed the EU is clearly the problem, not the solution. There is extensive evidence that for example Croatia, which recently joined the EU, is a hotbed of smuggling – not only of arms, but also of money, drugs, people and even human organs. It has been said (and it is no exaggeration) that free movement of goods and people in the EU (and especially the Schengen area) has led to free movement of Kalashnikovs.

The problem is not that we have too little regulation, but that we are failing to implement the legislation we already have.

Secondly, so far as we understand it the UK already has some of the tightest firearms regulation in the world. We do not believe that further legislation at the EU level will make any additional contribution to public safety. In any case we in UKIP are opposed in principle to any extension of competences at the EU level.

I therefore believe that we in UKIP will be opposing the new EU Firearms proposal. Sadly, however, I fear it will be approved anyway. There is nothing most MEPs like more than a nice piece of gesture politics in response to public concern – whether or not their gesture has any practical effect.


With kind regards
Caroline Sack
P.A to Diane James MEP

probably sums things up.

[froggy]

probably sums things up.

true and probably demonstrates which political party can be considered, beyond its obvious "pro-shooters" stance, as also the one with the most common sense...
an asset that seems nowadays pretty scarce on Westminster's benches

[bofor]

Anyone know when the next debate is on this ?

[ovenpaa]

Secondly, so far as we understand it the UK already has some of the tightest firearms regulation in the world. We do not believe that further legislation at the EU level will make any additional contribution to public safety. In any case we in UKIP are opposed in principle to any extension of competences at the EU level.

I therefore believe that we in UKIP will be opposing the new EU Firearms proposal. Sadly, however, I fear it will be approved anyway. There is nothing most MEPs like more than a nice piece of gesture politics in response to public concern – whether or not their gesture has any practical effect.


With kind regards
Caroline Sack
P.A to Diane James MEP

Sadly I do feel that Caroline has hit the nail on the head, regardless of how much we shout or campaign if a faceless MEP decides to go with the masses to keep their job then what chance do we have. Of course there is always the chance that our present people at the top decide that our current system is indeed adequate. Then again we have the Labourites and Scottish Nazi party who will happily also sell us down the road to pander to the Daily Fail readers.

[Blackstuff]

Good response for basing yours on

[froggy]

http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-gun-c ... nder-fire/