EU to propose banning semi auto "weapons"

[HALODIN]

The petition seems to be running out of speed now. 250,000 odd is amazing by British standards, but by UK standards, it's p*** poor. I'm amazed how many shooters in the UK still don't know the full or any details about this.

[bnz41]

While visiting a RFD a customer comes in with 3 gun slips, asked by the owner can I help, customer says yes I would like you to sell these 3 guns for me, get the best price you can. Customer opens the slips 1xAR15 Lantac straight pull, 1xS&W .22lr semi auto, 1xBeratta 12g semi auto 3 shot.
Asked why do you want to sell these "his reply I heard they are banning any semi auto and anything that looks military style since the Paris attack" so I thought I'd get in quick to get my money....

Since then heard a club member is also selling his AR15 SP his son has already sold his SP AK for similar reasons to above.

[Outsider]

While visiting a RFD a customer comes in with 3 gun slips, asked by the owner can I help, customer says yes I would like you to sell these 3 guns for me, get the best price you can. Customer opens the slips 1xAR15 Lantac straight pull, 1xS&W .22lr semi auto, 1xBeratta 12g semi auto 3 shot.
Asked why do you want to sell these "his reply I heard they are banning any semi auto and anything that looks military style since the Paris attack" so I thought I'd get in quick to get my money....

Since then heard a club member is also selling his AR15 SP his son has already sold his SP AK for similar reasons to above.

That's a bit premature.

[bradaz11]

sums up the mentality though. don't fight it, assume its going to happen and cash out now

[polemass]

There is ample of petitions running parallel,but yes-here in UK folks take it to lightly,was in Bisley today,"oh,yes this...-1.give us our pistols back or ...2.maybe we can meet somewhere in the middle this time...".so,not encouraging aaarggh
But me being me...just collected my brand new Bulgarian made underfolder in 7,62x39...so.tomorrow

[Chuck]

There is ample of petitions running parallel,but yes-here in UK folks take it to lightly,was in Bisley today,"oh,yes this...-1.give us our pistols back or ...2.maybe we can meet somewhere in the middle this time...".so,not encouraging aaarggh

People wll never change, easier to live in denial than face reality.

[morph007]

Hi all,

Just noticed this on the NRA website, sorry if it's been mentioned before.

It's a open letter from Andrew Mercer sent to all Members of the European Parliament. The contents are below but the link is here.. Click Me...

As a side thought I was thinking that if this goes through I'll paint my evil Spikes a lovely shade of pink , glue on a load of plastic flowers and see if I can get it reclassed as a semi auto vase.

Letter to Members of the European Parliament

EU Commission Proposals on Weapons Control

We understand the recent EU Draft Directive will be introduced to MEPs in December and voted on by the European
Parliament in January. If enacted, some of the proposed measures would have severe consequences for the law abiding
shooting sports, trade and collecting communities. Terrorists do not obtain firearms through normal licensed channels and
the proposed EU restrictions will do almost nothing to reduce the quantity of firearms available to those with criminal
intent.

Shooting is a major sport worth £2 billion to the UK economy, funds 74,000 full time jobs and is enjoyed by over a million
active participants. Furthermore the UK is recognised as already having some of the toughest firearms laws in the world.

Of particular concern to the NRA is the proposed ban on military style semi-automatic firearms. In the UK we are limited
to semi-automatic small bore .22” rimfire rifles; these fire relatively low energy ammunition (approximately the same as a
cricket ball delivered by a competent bowler) and are very popular in target shooting, particularly with young shooters. The
appearance of a firearm does not make it any more lethal. As is the case with all rifles, semi-automatic shotguns and .22”
rimfire rifles are very rarely used for criminal purpose and we see no good case for prohibiting them on the grounds that
they could be considered to resemble something they are not.

The proposals also include greater restrictions on Firearms Collectors – collecting firearms is a passion enjoyed by many
and there is no published evidence that demonstrates the need for greater restrictions - it is iniquitous to legislate merely
on the possibility that collecting might cause a problem; and ban on possession of deactivated fully automatic firearms by
other than authorised museums – it is estimated that 230,000 firearms have been deactivated in the UK since 1988; they
are non-functional and non-lethal and thus unlicensed - to confiscate them would demand substantial police resources and
lead to substantial compensation claims payable by the British Government.

There are additional unnecessary proposals for Firearms Certificates to be limited to a maximum five years duration (rather
than a more sensible ten); sound moderators to be controlled as an ‘essential component’ (moderators are widely used in
stalking and vermin control and restrictions on them should be relaxed, not increased); registration of deactivated firearms
(harmless items, the numbers and locations of which are unknown); and ban / restriction of disguised firearms (mainly
Victorian walking stick shotguns, for which there is no record of criminal misuse).
The proposed measures, if unchanged, will have significant adverse consequences on the shooting sports, trade and
collecting communities.
Along with all decent people the shooting community was horrified at the attacks in Paris; however the EU proposals will
have minimal effect on improving the protection of the public, will misdirect scarce police resources and risk being viewed
as no more than gesture politics. The EU should focus resources on reducing the pool of stockpiled but inadequately
secured small arms from which we understand many terrorist arms are sourced.

Millions of decent EU citizens choose shooting as their leisure activity and sport; these attempts to restrict their enjoyment
of certain firearms are akin to denying chefs their carving knives in an attempt to reduce knife crime.

The NRA urges you to scrutinise these proposals with great care; please do not hesitate to contact me should you require
any further details.

Andrew Mercer

Group Chief Executive & Secretary General

[HALODIN]

Don't forget to paint the tip orange, cover it in hello kitty stickers and glitter.

Hi all,

Just noticed this on the NRA website, sorry if it's been mentioned before.

It's a open letter from Andrew Mercer sent to all Members of the European Parliament. The contents are below but the link is here.. Click Me...

As a side thought I was thinking that if this goes through I'll paint my evil Spikes a lovely shade of pink , glue on a load of plastic flowers and see if I can get it reclassed as a semi auto vase.

[HALODIN]

I've used Mr Mercer's open letter as a template for my own. MEP's e-mailed.

[dromia]

Seems to have changed his tune, for the better.

Wonder who really wrote the letter for him.