LIVE Read-out College decisions and preparation -FIREARMS

[ovenpaa]

Better exchange of information between Member States, for example on any refusal of authorisation decided by another national authority, interconnection of national registers to ensure full European cooperation, and obligations for dealers and brokers to connect their registers to national registers.

That will be interesting given the errors already in place in the national register...

[TomH]

The main meat is in the actual report itself which has been cooking since 1991? Speed reading most of it, it appears thankfully not cut and dried with disagreement between member states. An emotive issue on this board is semi auto/military style weapons. So here are the classifications:

(13) The scope of the Directive is described in its Annex I, where the categories of firearms corresponding to different regimes of applications are described as follows:
- “Category A, consisting of prohibited firearms – fully automatic weapons and military weapons”;
- “Category B, including firearms subject to authorisation – used mostly by marksmen and hunters”;
- “Category C, covering firearms subject to declaration – essentially firearms used by hunters”;
- “Category D, for other firearms – which mainly applies to single-shot long firearms with smooth-bore barrels”.

So are military weapons M16's AK's etc or does it cover everything from an 1851 Enfield to a No4?

Report: http://ec.europa.eu/DocsRoom/documents/ ... ons/native

Believe it or not there may be some good news for shooters who take their guns abroad (EU)

European Firearms Pass (EFP) (Article 12): the Directive has introduced more flexible rules in respect of weapons used for hunting and sport shooting in order not to hinder their movement across MS. With the introduction of the EFP, hunters with firearms of category C and D and marksmen with firearms of category B, C and D can travel to another MS without prior authorisation by the MS of destination. The EFP should be regarded as the main document needed by hunters and marksmen and MS should not make acceptance of an EFP conditional upon the payment of any fee or charge.

Retired hurt with eye strain and a sore brain.

Tom

P.s. where is Gaz when he is needed?

[daman]

Here's the full classification from http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/ ... 31991L0477

As I read it the ban on B7 will mean the end of our black rifles in .22lr, unless the UK can hold the line that we've already proscribed all larger calibres. Not sure what the implication will be for e.g. Bora's etc for the shotgun users.

Category A - Prohibited firearms

1. Explosive military missiles and launchers.

2. Automatic firearms.

3. Firearms disguised as other objects.

4. Ammunition with penetrating, explosive or incendiary projectiles, and the projectiles for such ammunition.

5. Pistol and revolver ammunition with expanding projectiles and the projectiles for such ammunition, except in the case of weapons for hunting or for target shooting, for persons entitled to use them.

Category B - Firearms subject to authorization

1. Semi-automatic or repeating short firearms.

2. Single-shot short firearms with centre-fire percussion.

3. Single-shot short firearms with rimfire percussion whose overall length is less than 28 cm.

4. Semi-automatic long firearms whose magazine and chamber can together hold more than three rounds.

5. Semi-automatic long firearms whose magazine and chamber cannot together hold more than three rounds, where the loading device is removable or where it is not certain that the weapon cannot be converted, with ordinary tools, into a weapon whose magazine and chamber can together hold more than three rounds.

6. Repeating and semi-automatic long firearms with smooth-bore barrels not exceeding 60 cm in length.

7. Semi-automatic firearms for civilian use which resemble weapons with automatic mechanisms.

Category C - Firearms subject to declaration

1. Repeating long firearms other than those listed in category B, point 6.

2. Long firearms with single-shot rifled barrels.

3. Semi-automatic long firearms other than those in category B, points 4 to 7.

4. Single-shot short firearms with rimfire percussion whose overall length is not less than 28 cm.

Category D - Other firearms

Single-shot long firearms with smooth-bore barrels.

[ovenpaa]

Believe it or not there may be some good news for shooters who take their guns abroad (EU)

European Firearms Pass (EFP) (Article 12): the Directive has introduced more flexible rules in respect of weapons used for hunting and sport shooting in order not to hinder their movement across MS. With the introduction of the EFP, hunters with firearms of category C and D and marksmen with firearms of category B, C and D can travel to another MS without prior authorisation by the MS of destination. The EFP should be regarded as the main document needed by hunters and marksmen and MS should not make acceptance of an EFP conditional upon the payment of any fee or charge.

For us Brits heading overseas the EFP is a bonus and best of all is free of charge form your local Firearms Team. For people heading into the UK from Europe it is not so easy unless things have changed recently...

[ordnance]

Category B - Firearms subject to authorization

1. Semi-automatic or repeating short firearms.

2. Single-shot short firearms with centre-fire percussion.

According to what i read handguns are Category B - Firearms subject to authorization, am i reading it correctly.