EU to propose banning semi auto "weapons"

[WelshShooter]

You are all getting excited about something that is in all likelyhood not going to affect the UK.

So that means we shouldn't do anything about it, right? So what if a ban doesn't affect the UK, I'm still going to vote against it for the sake of our fellow European shooters.

[froggy]

You are all getting excited about something that is in all likelyhood not going to affect the UK ... I don't think it will affect the 'market' place unless you are in the market for assault rifle or handgun which we in the UK are not allowed anyway.

Actually, assault rifles, which are full-auto, fall into the "Category A" of prohibited firearms which are already banned in all European countries ...

I suggest you actually read the text put forward last week & you will realize that the scope of the proposed ban is indeed civilian semi-auto civilian rifles. If you own one it will fall within the proposed ban. Since LBP are technically also falling into this category, they will therefore also likely be targeted.

Burying one's head in the sand has never made one safe.

[Marmite5]

You are totally wrong, any restrictive legislation affects the size of the sector globally and that impacts on all shooter and gun owners.

I don't think so, if the EU ban the civilian ownership of semi-auto Kalashnikovs will the civilian availability of semi-auto Kalashnikovs be affected in the UK? No

[Marmite5]

I don't have a LBP but I doubt they are really concerned about those, you are all reading too much into all of this, it will all come to nothing as far as the UK is concerned.

[dromia]

You are totally wrong, any restrictive legislation affects the size of the sector globally and that impacts on all shooter and gun owners.

I don't think so, if the EU ban the civilian ownership of semi-auto Kalashnikovs will the civilian availability of semi-auto Kalashnikovs be affected in the UK? No

Obviously I cannot help your lack of foresight, understanding or ability to see the wider shooting world on which we are dependant based on what has happened before, but trust me I'm not a doctor, unfortunately you are very very wrong on this, just look at the current US legislation and the impact that has had over here. Never mind the impact of previous legislation on still legal shooting and gun ownership.

[Gazoo]

I don't have a LBP but I doubt they are really concerned about those, you are all reading too much into all of this, it will all come to nothing as far as the UK is concerned.

I disagree, any new prohibition in europe, even if it already exists here makes the ban it lobby stronger. The police will seize on little scraps around the edges of new euro legislation to whittle away what we already have. This MUST be resisted, you cannot do what the NRA lot did to semi-auto FB rifle and pistol shooters and say, " because it doesn't effect MY type of gun I will let it go"
That is the Yardley and Coe way. You could merge them and almost get COWARDLY couldnt you ??but I digest.
I was exchanging emails with my MP at midnight last night (Pat Glass - Durham NW), got a reasonable response as well once she got over my general "RANT". She said she will look into it and discuss with the 3 MEPs (who I also emailed but got no reply from yet). Actually said she had nothing against shooting and fishing ...last rant I had was at Hillary Armstrong, who wanted all of us to make our "weapons" into ploughs or something and "take up golf"

[Hunter87]

Possibly but very very low, we have some of the tightest and most restrictive legislation in the EU and its far more likley that the EU will move towards our model than for us to start to be even more restrictive. I would guess that if there is to be greater harmonisation across the EU then it is more likely that our restrictions might even be eased as the rest of the EU gets more restrictive. Big panic about nothing for us here at home.

All they have to do is tighten one finger around your neck at a time and before you know it you will be choked

[snayperskaya]

You are totally wrong, any restrictive legislation affects the size of the sector globally and that impacts on all shooter and gun owners.

I don't think so, if the EU ban the civilian ownership of semi-auto Kalashnikovs will the civilian availability of semi-auto Kalashnikovs be affected in the UK? No

But thats not to say our straight-pull AKS and ARs etc won't be threatened over here because of their "military" looks, also ownership of semi-auto shotguns like the Vepr, Saiga, Bora etc etc could be threatened.....
If we ignore whats being proposed in Europe because it seemingly doesn't affect us we leave ourselves wide open and could forget any support from Europe.

[Mezzer]

As far as I can see, for the UK, this is a big fuss about nothing.

You are a part-time, unelected Brussels Commissioner and I claim my £5 award for identifying you as such!

Mezzer

[froggy]

our straight-pull AKS and ARs ... threatened over here because of their "military" looks ...ownership of semi-auto shotguns like the Vepr, Saiga, Bora etc etc could be threatened..... If we ignore whats being proposed in Europe ... we leave ourselves wide open .

+1, European shooters are such easy targets because they are so fragmented when facing such a powerful EU enemy, some like Yardley even happy to sacrifice follow shooters in the selfish hope to be spared .
This EU proposal is actually an opportunity to create a united front & a pressure group of pan-European size.


I don't think so, if the EU ban the civilian ownership of semi-auto Kalashnikovs will the civilian availability of semi-auto Kalashnikovs be affected in the UK? No

If the EU ban the civilian ownership of semi-auto AR will the civilian availability of Straight-Pull parts & 223 ammo also used in bolt actions be affected in the UK ? Hell yes !!

Not to mention that when AR straight-pull ownership will starts diminishing in the UK how easy will it to ban it all together ?