Blackstuff wrote:The way they would do it without having to pay would be to give everyone temporary Section 5 authority to keep whatever they had at the time the 'ban' came in, the same way they did with Brocock revolvers. You can't sell/transfer etc the gun so effectively it would die with you. No compensation needed and shooters would probably be that relieved that they got to keep their guns they'd go along with it.
Grandfather rights yer thats one way ! Good luck if your now banned gun needs a repir or parts
I do also think that once the acpo get the media and sheeple in a frenzy they will be rubbing their hands and demand that target shooting be no longer a good reason so unless you can find another good reason no grandfather rights and you will be forced to sell your collection
To stop this we must demand action now from the shooting organisations and we should write to the secrety of state !
It will be interesting to see if NI will protest on such a ban Scotland will agree with the ban
Time for the shooting organisations put forward their own alternative "wish list". Let's start the ball rolling;
1) Return of self loading and pump action centrefire rifles to section 1.
2) Return of multi shot (2+) shotguns to section 2.
3) Return of pistols to section 1.
4) FACs and SGCs to last the lifetime of the holder.
[quote="Chapuis"]Time for the shooting organisations put forward their own alternative "wish list". Let's start the ball rolling;
1) Return of self loading and pump action centrefire rifles to section 1.
2) Return of multi shot (2+) shotguns to section 2.
3) Return of pistols to section 1.
4) FACs and SGCs to last the lifetime of the holder.[/quote
First things first lets try presude them to nip this ban most / all guns !
joe wrote:Just to think i was looking at getting 5.56mm LMT and some sort of LBP
Well that's now all in the bin !
Hope the NRA is happy
I think you need to have a lie down, mate.
Chapuis - excellent ideas. Though I am slowly working on a proposal for the entire licensing system to be overhauled, based on section 2's sensible approach of licensing the person and not the objects. The NRA proposal, I'm told, will include deleting all the nonsense about LBRs, s1 shotguns etc and just calling them all "firearms" again - which, as well as removing the police ability to put arbitrary hurdles in our way would also mean people can borrow them from other club members and hold them on club FACs.
joe wrote:Just to think i was looking at getting 5.56mm LMT and some sort of LBP
Well that's now all in the bin !
Hope the NRA is happy
I think you need to have a lie down, mate.
Chapuis - excellent ideas. Though I am slowly working on a proposal for the entire licensing system to be overhauled, based on section 2's sensible approach of licensing the person and not the objects. The NRA proposal, I'm told, will include deleting all the nonsense about LBRs, s1 shotguns etc and just calling them all "firearms" again - which, as well as removing the police ability to put arbitrary hurdles in our way would also mean people can borrow them from other club members and hold them on club FACs.
Wonderful stuff. I wonder if we can perhaps swing a cost-saving spin on this. Section 2 certificates are far cheaper to issue then all the nonsense that surrounds Section 1 FACs and is far closer to the ORIGINAL spirit of the law; ie, that loyal, law abiding subjects can hold firearms.
TJC wrote:This would be terminal for the NRA if it happened. They would go under within 18-months.
No, they would make up for any loss of profits by hiring the ranges to police and militray . With no cillivians taking range space you could have several different police forces or military training at the same time .
TJC wrote:This would be terminal for the NRA if it happened. They would go under within 18-months.
The fact they didn't in 1987 and 1996/7 is indicative that they wouldn't. The biggest problem with the NRA is that they are seemingly concerned with Bisley and Bisley only.
The NRA is a very different organisation now to how it was back in the 80's and 90's, (and even more recently than that)it was almost entirely centred about target rifle. This is no longer the case.
If they are only bothered about Bisley, then why is national access to ranges, and the recent hire of a national shooting manager (not based at Bisley!) in their aims for the next few years?
Change the record, churning out the same old complaints against the NRA doesn't achieve anything.
I'm not saying they're perfect, but their last couple of years have shown promise.
Anyway. Regardless of what you think of any of our shooting organisations, it comes down to the individual to protect our sport too. Write to your MP. Contact the shooting organisations, get more people into shooting to do the same thing. Nobody is going to do it for you, you have to stand up and be counted.