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M99

Re: Law Commission recommends total overhaul of firearms law

#151 Post by M99 »

Sim G wrote:
Gaz wrote:
I'm going to obtain a copy of the full Crown court judgment as well as the defence and prosecution arguments to check whether anyone mentioned the antique exemption at any stage.
You need to see the MG4 which is the charge sheet. The fact is, the revolver in this context is very important. There are relatively very few .32 caliber cartridges that feature on the "obsolete list". The exact make, model and cal, as far as can be discerned, should be on the MG4.

The revolver anyway may be a moot point after all. It was loaded with whatever remained in the cylinder and it was reported that another 32 rounds were possessed. Ammunition, regardless of age or type, does not have a status under s58. This in itself kills their argument that "criminals are using this loophole to acquire guns for crime". Again, the ammunition should be described fully on the MG4.
Gaz

If you send me the question(s) you want asking - the PC involved is a good friend, he will answer them no doubt.

Incidentally he has made a full recovery and is back in work pushing the area car around :twisted:
IsleShoot

Re: Law Commission recommends total overhaul of firearms law

#152 Post by IsleShoot »

Some info about what the BSSC councils input has been to date.

Click the link below;

(See link in other post below)

I understand that as the UKPSA & the NRA are charitable organisations they are not allowed to campaign politically. Whilst I definately understand the financial advantage of this status I think it might be an idea for these national bodies to rethink their position as they are effectively gagged and their only recourse is to use their one seat on the BSSC council to push for change.

Worth thinking about at least?
Last edited by IsleShoot on Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:09 am, edited 1 time in total.
Sixshot6

Re: Law Commission recommends total overhaul of firearms law

#153 Post by Sixshot6 »

IsleShoot wrote:Some info about what the BSSC councils input has been to date.

Click the link below;

http://www.filehosting.org/file/details ... 202015.doc

I understand that as the UKPSA & the NRA are charitable organisations they are not allowed to campaign politically. Whilst I definately understand the financial advantage of this status I think it might be an idea for these national bodies to rethink their position as they are effectively gagged and their only recourse is to use their one seat on the BSSC council to push for change.

Worth thinking about at least?
Not sure about downloading, what exactly have they contributed that is of interest?
IsleShoot

Re: Law Commission recommends total overhaul of firearms law

#154 Post by IsleShoot »

ITs the minutes from the last BSSC council meeting.

I'm not sure the link works very well. Wait one, I'll find another way to post.

#fail aaarggh
Sixshot6

Re: Law Commission recommends total overhaul of firearms law

#155 Post by Sixshot6 »

IsleShoot wrote:ITs the minutes from the last BSSC council meeting.

I'm not sure the link works very well. Wait one, I'll find another way to post.

#fail aaarggh
Thanks, be interesting to know how well they are fighting our corner. I was spooked when I found the last Home office consultation actually called for LBR's and any revolver type firearm to be banned.... in 2004. Its 2015 and we've still got them. Maybe there is hope after all even with this being the law commission.
IsleShoot

Re: Law Commission recommends total overhaul of firearms law

#156 Post by IsleShoot »

Right this should be a link to the BSSC minutes from April to June 2015 period.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7jsoxsruvxpt5 ... 5.doc?dl=0

fingerscrossed
Sixshot6

Re: Law Commission recommends total overhaul of firearms law

#157 Post by Sixshot6 »

IsleShoot wrote:Right this should be a link to the BSSC minutes from April to June 2015 period.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7jsoxsruvxpt5 ... 5.doc?dl=0

fingerscrossed
I skimmed it, seemed interesting in parts.
Gaz

Re: Law Commission recommends total overhaul of firearms law

#158 Post by Gaz »

MiLisCer wrote:
Sim G wrote:
Gaz wrote:
I'm going to obtain a copy of the full Crown court judgment as well as the defence and prosecution arguments to check whether anyone mentioned the antique exemption at any stage.
You need to see the MG4 which is the charge sheet. The fact is, the revolver in this context is very important. There are relatively very few .32 caliber cartridges that feature on the "obsolete list". The exact make, model and cal, as far as can be discerned, should be on the MG4.

The revolver anyway may be a moot point after all. It was loaded with whatever remained in the cylinder and it was reported that another 32 rounds were possessed. Ammunition, regardless of age or type, does not have a status under s58. This in itself kills their argument that "criminals are using this loophole to acquire guns for crime". Again, the ammunition should be described fully on the MG4.
Gaz

If you send me the question(s) you want asking - the PC involved is a good friend, he will answer them no doubt.

Incidentally he has made a full recovery and is back in work pushing the area car around :twisted:
Excellente, cheers. PM inbound!

There is a picture of the actual revolver on the Mail link I posted earlier...

Image
Does anyone know what it is, or what it would have been chambered in?
Sixshot6

Re: Law Commission recommends total overhaul of firearms law

#159 Post by Sixshot6 »

MiLisCer wrote:
Sim G wrote:
Gaz wrote:






Gaz

If you send me the question(s) you want asking - the PC involved is a good friend, he will answer them no doubt.

Incidentally he has made a full recovery and is back in work pushing the area car around :twisted:
Excellente, cheers. PM inbound!

There is a picture of the actual revolver on the Mail link I posted earlier...

Image
Does anyone know what it is, or what it would have been chambered in?
Top break ejection, could be a webley as they carried that design on longer than smith or other companies did due to patent law (the late 19th century/early 20th is an interesting time for how people got round patents, also there is the possibility of a foreign ala spanish clone as they did not have alot of respect for anything not made in spain even if patents existed). Just my two pence Gaz.

Edit: Could it be this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIFEmmF9rg
breacher

Re: Law Commission recommends total overhaul of firearms law

#160 Post by breacher »

Looks like a Harrington and Richards in .32
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