Barrel measuring question

[TattooedGun]

Another example - you take a barrel blank - unchambered so its not a component. You cut it to 10" and its still not a component. You chamber it. What classification is it ?

Section 5 The minute you chamber it, is the minute it gets classified as a rifle barrel and a 10" rifle barrel is classed as Sec 5.

[breacher]

Another example - you take a barrel blank - unchambered so its not a component. You cut it to 10" and its still not a component. You chamber it. What classification is it ?

Section 5 The minute you chamber it, is the minute it gets classified as a rifle barrel and a 10" rifle barrel is classed as Sec 5.

If its a blank just been chambered, who says its a rifle barrel ? If it has never been fitted to a rifle receiver ?

As I said in my previous example, it would be sect 1 if fitted to a black powder pistol.

[polemass]

It is for interpretation then-cutting long barrel from sec1,then make it min 12" long,you back to bacic,yes?-was sec1,is now sec1 ,still.I am talking about rifle barrel only-thnx,JB

[breacher]

Its a minefield for sure.

Another example - you have something like the new Lantac Sub - a 10" barrel with permanently attached suppressor taking it over 12" and therefore section 1.

One day, the weld fails while shooting and the suppressor is now NOT permanently attached. You immediately go back to the dealer and get it re welded. But it has been section 5 between the range and the dealer. Does it return to section 1 when welded the second time ?

[TattooedGun]

Another example - you take a barrel blank - unchambered so its not a component. You cut it to 10" and its still not a component. You chamber it. What classification is it ?

Section 5 The minute you chamber it, is the minute it gets classified as a rifle barrel and a 10" rifle barrel is classed as Sec 5.

If its a blank just been chambered, who says its a rifle barrel ? If it has never been fitted to a rifle receiver ?

As I said in my previous example, it would be sect 1 if fitted to a black powder pistol.

It wouldn't be chambered for a cartridge on black powder pistol though, would it?

My understanding is the cylinder is the chamber on one of those...

[TattooedGun]

Its a minefield for sure.

Another example - you have something like the new Lantac Sub - a 10" barrel with permanently attached suppressor taking it over 12" and therefore section 1.

One day, the weld fails while shooting and the suppressor is now NOT permanently attached. You immediately go back to the dealer and get it re welded. But it has been section 5 between the range and the dealer. Does it return to section 1 when welded the second time ?

I don't know exactly where the law would stand on this, as it's not my wheelhouse. Presumably it becomes section 5 and you need a new barrel assembly.

[breacher]

Ahhhh good point - totally forgot about that !!! But my question stands - until its fitted to a receiver, how can it be classified without knowing what receiver ?

For example - a .45 barrel - taken off a section 1 firearm and chopped at the breech end to 10".

So, no longer chambered ?

Can open - worms everywhere.........

[breacher]

I cannot recall the thread but I am sure it was here - where someone said there is case law which indicates a shotgun barrel when OFF the shotgun is not controlled So, if not controlled, its just a steel tube and can be cut as short as you like.

[TattooedGun]

Ahhhh good point - totally forgot about that !!! But my question stands - until its fitted to a receiver, how can it be classified without knowing what receiver ?

Because it's chambered.

A chambered rifled barrel becomes a component part which is subject to legislation.

As far as I'm aware, there are NO chambered rifled barrels that are allowable on section 1 under 12" apart from obsolete calibre.

[TattooedGun]

I cannot recall the thread but I am sure it was here - where someone said there is case law which indicates a shotgun barrel when OFF the shotgun is not controlled So, if not controlled, its just a steel tube and can be cut as short as you like.

You're mixing shotgun (Smooth Bore) with a discussion about rifled barrels.

I don't have an encyclopaedic knowledge on the legislation, as mentioned, it's not my wheelhouse.

My opinion would be not to try and test the legislation if you had a sawn off shotgun barrel and the rest of the shotgun to be able to attach it to in your possession.