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Re: Range safety certificate

#51 Post by IainWR »

barney57 wrote:[

IainWR

I have to come down on the side of James here,,,as I think you might have misunderstood him slightly,,,,here we have a Trained British Army sniper offering his services, to ensure good and safe shooting to people who are new to the world of target shooting on Ranges,,,I think that is what his point is,,,,The British Army's Sniper Course is one of the hardest, if not, the hardest small arms course in the Army, as a trained British Army Sniper james would rank as one of the best trained marksmen/Snipers in the world,,, no question!

your quote....isn't primarily about helping people shoot straight. It's primarily about helping people find their way through the necessarily complex administration that surrounds an event as big as the Imperial. unquote...



I feel that James, would fit in very well in a civilian competition,,he will have taken part in many Military Competitions,as have I,,,can I ask how many Military Competitions you have partaken in??



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Errr ...

I've just retired after 34 years Regular Service in the Royal Air Force. I have shot in every RAF Skill-at-Arms meeting since 1979 and have represented the RAF overseas on at least 15 occasions. I was once a Forward Air Control supervisor and have held RCO qualifications for everything up to and including live 1000 lb bombs.

I say again, the mentoring (Aunts and Uncles) scheme isn't about teaching people to shoot, and it certainly isn't about the safe running of ranges. It's about helping people to find their way around the biggest shooting match in Europe. The scheme isn't even run by the NRA, though the NRA recognises it's value and provides advertising and message forwarding. It's run entirely voluntarily by a retired serviceman who matches up suitable volunteers to those asking for help.

Oh, and if any sniper would like to shoot against me, him with his L96A1 / scope sight / issue smock and issue ammo and me with my Gemini Quadlock / iron sight / Truttmann jacket and RWS 155s, I'll take the challenge 2ss and 15 on a target range at 1000 yards. Slab of beer on the result?

Iain
barney57

Re: Range safety certificate

#52 Post by barney57 »

karen wrote:
barney57 wrote:
Its a reasonable and valid question!
It is indeed!

It may just result in a very looooonnnnnggggg answer as anyone who knows Iain will confirm :lol:

Love

Karen
Oh Dear, Oh Dear, Oh Dear, :shock: :lol:
what have I done??? :lol:
Rifleman798

Re: Range safety certificate

#53 Post by Rifleman798 »

Thanks for the support Guys.
Barney, I have shot at CENTSAAM Bisley(Equivilant to the Imperial meeting, if not bigger) being in Army 100 Every year and winning various titles including moving Target champion 2007, We were Army Sniper champions 2006 aswell. I was Pistol 30, Shot in Australia, South Africa, USA representing the British Army and shooting competitions throughout the UK. Im not going into detail.

All I wanted to do was just share my knowledge and experiences. Im a modest bloke and Im embarressed in a way posting what Ive won etc, But I feel the NRA should see what kind of people are out there who want to help and what they can offer. Shooters could learn a lot from ex Soldiers like me and I can name a few who are far superior to me. The level of Marksmanship in the Army is amazing. But when these Soldiers leave the Army then what?
To be honest I shouldnt feel put out by not being given a chance but I took it to heart. Worse thing I should have done. Im just going to plod on and do what I enjoy and if anyone wants a hand then I will do what I can. Hopefully be able to shoot with some forum members in the near future and share experiences and tips with eachother.


James
karen

Re: Range safety certificate

#54 Post by karen »

James

Please don't take it to heart as obviously people like you are very useful!

Why not come and shoot the Meeting, see what its all about and then you'll be able to help others in future years.

Still looking for people to help with Open Unit cadets though - maybe Iain could start another thread on this

Love

Karen
Rifleman798

Re: Range safety certificate

#55 Post by Rifleman798 »

Karen,

Yeah I would be up for that. Anywhere in Suffolk would be good for me.

James
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Re: Range safety certificate

#56 Post by IainWR »

barney57 wrote:
Oh Dear, Oh Dear, Oh Dear, :shock: :lol:
what have I done??? :lol:
Don't worry about it!

I wouldn't presume to suggest I could beat a sniper at his own game. But the big part of being a sniper is the fieldcraft (something that in the Forward Air Control world we did a very little of - anything under 6000 metres was too close!). The shooting skill is just a technical thing to be mastered. In the same way that flying a military aircraft is just a necessary technical thing - the skill lies in how you use it. To continue the analogy, very few military pilots would expect to match civilian aerobatic specialists in an aerobatic competiton, which bears about the same relationship to military flying that target shooting does to sniping. It's highly skilled and technically difficult, but stylised, limited and done in a completely controlled environment. That doesn't mean the mil pilots aren't the very best at what they do. Ditto the snipers (though it's a continuing mystery to me why the L96 doesn't have a 30" barrel and chambering for something like a Berger 210).

The NRA honestly does need all the expert help it can get, in several areas. In the pure shooting activities finding that help is part of my committee's responsibilities, and I would love to hear from anyone willing to give some of their time.

Iain
HeatherW762

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#57 Post by HeatherW762 »

karen wrote:
barney57 wrote:
Its a reasonable and valid question!
It is indeed!

It may just result in a very looooonnnnnggggg answer as anyone who knows Iain will confirm :lol:

Love

Karen
I'm laughing my socks off here....... :D :D :D :D

Seriously though, the NRASC has just had a Lee Enfield day and several people were asking about follow up days aimed at CSR competing. James, you sound like just the sort of person I need to help with this. Are you in?

Heather
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Re: Range safety certificate

#58 Post by IainWR »

Heather, you know me too well!

Given the post a page or two back, can you pass me a copy of Dromia's submission?

James, Heather is right, there are places we could really do with your expertise. if you are willing to help with cadets in your area, would you PM me your details so I can pass them to the member of the Shooting Committee dealing with cadet support?

BTW, and just so I can place you appropriately, are you still serving or are you retired?

Iain
HeatherW762

Re: Range safety certificate

#59 Post by HeatherW762 »

On its way Iain.

Heather
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Re: Range safety certificate

#60 Post by IainWR »

All please note the NRA professional staff are still hard at work at this time in the evening!

Has anyone poked the management about overtime of late? :roll:
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