VZ58 MARS - First Range Day

[John MH]

But did you hit anything?

[joe]

actually i did, it was at 100 yards prone, although the accurancy wasnt good !

[ovenpaa]

It does not need to be a straight pull to be quick and accurate. A few years ago three of finished the afternoon practice with an impromptu competition, rules were 5 placed rounds and the clock stopped at 15 seconds. Between us we were 11, 13 and 15 seconds with 12 V's and 3 5's scored between us. That was at 600 yards with standard TR dustbin lids.

Far more challenging is 600m at a Fig 14, CoF is 3 second exposure at 5 second intervals along a 15m mantlet. 25 shots to score, the first 10 or 12 shots are easy after that it gets increasingly harder with every shot even though it is over in a matter of 5 minutes.

I have all of my targets from the above hanging on the wall of the workshop.

[joe]

It does not need to be a straight pull to be quick and accurate. A few years ago three of finished the afternoon practice with an impromptu competition, rules were 5 placed rounds and the clock stopped at 15 seconds. Between us we were 11, 13 and 15 seconds with 12 V's and 3 5's scored between us. That was at 600 yards with standard TR dustbin lids.

Far more challenging is 600m at a Fig 14, CoF is 3 second exposure at 5 second intervals along a 15m mantlet. 25 shots to score, the first 10 or 12 shots are easy after that it gets increasingly harder with every shot even though it is over in a matter of 5 minutes.

I have all of my targets from the above hanging on the wall of the workshop.

very true, i saw one of those american gun shows, sons of guns or the other one where they put a lever action carbine vs uzi sub machine gun against the clock shooting at verious targets, the lever action was the quickest and was shot by a 12 year old !

found it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5PLnlRVqKQ

dont tell the home office

[Dannywayoflife]

The Scandinavians seem to be able to operate a bolt gun nearly as fast as a semi!

[Blackstuff]

whats so wrong with using the trigger??

if you want to fire, but the bolt is open, the trigger pull closes the bolt, which you would see rather obviously and feel, as it is hardly a soft click.

if you want to fire and bolt is closed, you pull the trigger, it fires.

if you want to close the bolt, with bolt open, you pull the release, bolt closes (if you have a charged mag in, it would load it, same as if you closed an open bolt on an SMLE with a loaded mag)

if you want to close the bolt, with bolt already closed, it will fire if a round is chambered. (do you close the bolt on a live round, with something like an SMLE, WITHOUT the rifle pointing at target? if you do, i wouldnt want to be on a range near you, if you don't, then the rifle would be safe to discharge anyway, so if anything, its more of an annoyance and a wasted shot.

for me, its quite simple, do your proper drills, when you want to close the bolt on an empty chamber, you remove the mag, so it cannot chamber a round, and saves you missing a round in the mag.

i really dont see how its unsafe

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