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Re: M1 Garand straight pull

#11 Post by HALODIN »

Those sights on the pic from the link earlier on don't look new to me, what else isn't new? Look at the bayonet lug in this pic. Lots of wear on certain bits - sling mount - gas tube and trigger guard.

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#12 Post by bnz41 »

That looks like the rifle thats done all the test/preview work first posted pictures on web site 25th september so may have had some use in over 3 months.
When I asked about the Garand he told me trigger and guard are 1944/45 era the bayonet lug because of the finish this would wear, the rest made up of new parts and new wood, I thought the sights are new but stand corrected if I'm wrong. ping
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#13 Post by PaulR »

I talked to Neil about these at Bisley and I think he said that the Receiver and other parts were off the post war Beretta made Garands produced under licence in Italy. This would suggest that there has been some re-parkerising done on components.

The Gas tube under the barrel is notorious for ending up in its natural metal colour, I had one pre Hungerford and that was a greyish silver, my de-act and Straight Pull Garands also have similar colouring. Contemporary photo's of Garands in service often show this as well.

Not sure but I think the component is Stainless Steel.
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#14 Post by saddler »

The book Gas Trap Garands is a good read...makes for a good Xmas pressie
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#15 Post by neal455 »

Hi all.
The Garand is made from as many new parts as are available. They are all from the Danish Govenment spares stocks. Some of the sling swivels/small parts and the Gas Cylinder are re issued as they are stainless and would double the cost of the gun to reproduce. Hence why they get a shine so quickly. They are all inspected "modded" so to be useless and blasted/re-Parkerised, along with all the other new bits so to match.
Stocks are new, as are bolts/receiver and all internal parts. Operating rod also is new, but has no piston.
sights on the ones here are new. Also they have cleaning kit / rods with them. One clip. (We have spares)
A few people are asking for original stocks, which has been difficult to source, I can get them from USA but as you all know, that's now not so easy as its a "military gun" so comes under the duel use ruling (same as mil dot & over 4x power scopes) and needs individual export license. A pain.
We are working on them.
WE DONT HAVE ANY WW2 marked receivers. All FKF.
All up we have done 25 so far, they are being built as i type this, the proofing will been done in Europe, as the local proof house want to fail 30-06 rifles for head space issue's even though they all went through CIP proofing first but were not stamped up. Go figure. Garands are well known to be difficult to gauge correctly.
They shoot really well, best extracting gun we have done, see the video & pictures I posted up on Facebook/suffolkrifle.co.uk of Pete Moore shooting the first rifle straight out the box. First 8 rounds in a new gun, all mixed from steel cased light loads to heavy hunting rounds. We all went, Wow! Its on the front cover of Shooting Sports with a 4 page review, go read it.
The L1A1's are always interesting, RG ABSOLUTELY sucks in them, GGG & RWS is ok to good, NORINCO steel cased is the best, and all the rest are a try it and see. No two rifles are the same. I have no idea why. I use Norinco, but it has it own issue's as its not the best down range .... Still you dont buy a L1A1 for 1000 yard F class stuff. Its a fun historic gun. We have done 2 more batches of them, first are all sold, second will be available again end of this year/January.
I we are being promised a delivery in December of the Garands BUT the shipping is proving difficult as they weigh in at 250kg and can't be couriered by road, as they have to go through 3 different countries. So there you have it. The news as of today!
Neal
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neal455 wrote:Hi all.
The Garand is made from as many new parts as are available. They are all from the Danish Govenment spares stocks. Some of the sling swivels/small parts and the Gas Cylinder are re issued as they are stainless and would double the cost of the gun to reproduce. Hence why they get a shine so quickly. They are all inspected "modded" so to be useless and blasted/re-Parkerised, along with all the other new bits so to match.
Stocks are new, as are bolts/receiver and all internal parts. Operating rod also is new, but has no piston.
sights on the ones here are new. Also they have cleaning kit / rods with them. One clip. (We have spares)
A few people are asking for original stocks, which has been difficult to source, I can get them from USA but as you all know, that's now not so easy as its a "military gun" so comes under the duel use ruling (same as mil dot & over 4x power scopes) and needs individual export license. A pain.
We are working on them.
WE DONT HAVE ANY WW2 marked receivers. All FKF.
All up we have done 25 so far, they are being built as i type this, the proofing will been done in Europe, as the local proof house want to fail 30-06 rifles for head space issue's even though they all went through CIP proofing first but were not stamped up. Go figure. Garands are well known to be difficult to gauge correctly.
They shoot really well, best extracting gun we have done, see the video & pictures I posted up on Facebook/suffolkrifle.co.uk of Pete Moore shooting the first rifle straight out the box. First 8 rounds in a new gun, all mixed from steel cased light loads to heavy hunting rounds. We all went, Wow! Its on the front cover of Shooting Sports with a 4 page review, go read it.
The L1A1's are always interesting, RG ABSOLUTELY sucks in them, GGG & RWS is ok to good, NORINCO steel cased is the best, and all the rest are a try it and see. No two rifles are the same. I have no idea why. I use Norinco, but it has it own issue's as its not the best down range .... Still you dont buy a L1A1 for 1000 yard F class stuff. Its a fun historic gun. We have done 2 more batches of them, first are all sold, second will be available again end of this year/January.
I we are being promised a delivery in December of the Garands BUT the shipping is proving difficult as they weigh in at 250kg and can't be couriered by road, as they have to go through 3 different countries. So there you have it. The news as of today!
Neal


No mention of what barrels are fitted, do these still have the original military barrels and if so, how did you get around the fact that they will still have gas ports?

I am mindful of the recent confiscation of SVT's by various police forces, that just had the gas ports blocked up.

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#17 Post by bnz41 »

I have just been reading the on line M1 Garand article that will be in Shooting Sports magazine next issue on his web site and I quote "Obviously the barrel is new and undrilled for a gas port"

I nearly bought one of those SVT40's so had a lucky escape. Different dealer was selling those, not trading now.
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#18 Post by Andy632 »

bnz41 wrote:I have just been reading the on line M1 Garand article that will be in Shooting Sports magazine next issue on his web site and I quote "Obviously the barrel is new and undrilled for a gas port"

I nearly bought one of those SVT40's so had a lucky escape. Different dealer was selling those, not trading now.
When I had my M14 built, they charged me an extra $100 for NOT drilling the Gas hole! :o
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#19 Post by ukrifleman »

bnz41 wrote:I have just been reading the on line M1 Garand article that will be in Shooting Sports magazine next issue on his web site and I quote "Obviously the barrel is new and undrilled for a gas port"

I nearly bought one of those SVT40's so had a lucky escape. Different dealer was selling those, not trading now.


Thank you for the clarification re-the barrels. If Suffolk rifle Co. have indeed produced a straight pull version that has no hard extraction issues, then it sounds like they are on to a definite winner with this rifle.

It will be interesting to see if they eventually offer it in other calibres such as .223/.308Win.

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#20 Post by bnz41 »

ukrifleman wrote:
bnz41 wrote:I have just been reading the on line M1 Garand article that will be in Shooting Sports magazine next issue on his web site and I quote "Obviously the barrel is new and undrilled for a gas port"

I nearly bought one of those SVT40's so had a lucky escape. Different dealer was selling those, not trading now.




It will be interesting to see if they eventually offer it in other calibres such as .223/.308Win.

ukrifleman.
You want a M1 in .308 they already make one its called the M1A for the civilian market or M14 for the military version in the US. In the UK he sells the M14 of course straight pull. :good: but why would you want one in .223 you would buy a AR15....
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