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Any existing data without such a reference should be treated as suspect and not used.
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Alpha1 wrote:Why would you want to replicate military ammo when for the same money you can hand craft much better and more accurate ammunition and have the satisfaction of achieving much better groups down range.
I know, and I'll likely go there. I did state 'as a minimum'.
If your objective is to re create military ammo then save your money don't bother buying re loading gear just go buy military surplus.
And what if there's none in stock anywhere? Shortages do happen. I want the reloading eqpt for contingency and nothing more (at this point in time).
+1 for the mentor idea. I've been on two training courses run by my club and have started small with 9mm. I hadn't got a clue before I started but I'm starting to get to grips with it now.
The above post probably contains sarcasm or some other form of attempted wit, please don't take it to heart.
Alpha1 wrote:Why would you want to replicate military ammo when for the same money you can hand craft much better and more accurate ammunition and have the satisfaction of achieving much better groups down range. Military ammo is designed to inflict wounds on the opposition hand crafted ammunition is designed to give you tight groups at your chosen distance. Home loads do not have corrosive primers they go bang every time you pull the trigger. You will not make home loaded ammunition for the same price as military ammo. If your objective is to re create military ammo then save your money don't bother buying re loading gear just go buy military surplus.
Never had a Russian milsurp round fail to fire and corrosive primers is no biggy.
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HALODIN wrote:You'll get better life out of your brass if you just neck size the brass once it's fire formed to your chamber, you will however have to do a full length resize every 5-6th time in my experience.
Sounds reasonable, so should I get Pacesetter Dies + separate neck-sizing dies? Or just get the Lee Ultimate set?
If I only need to neck size the first few times (and I'm not looking to maximise re-use) then I'm still thinking that a Lee Classic plus a few other bits like scales, reamers, hand priming tool) will probably do for my needs (in NATO anyway)... would anyone concur with that?
Bear in mind this is for AR, not bolt-action.
I know it's laborious with the Classic but it's for contingency; producing useable ammo, rather than any desire for super-accuracy.
As all my rifles are either x39 or 54r I have spoken to a number of milsurp dealers on the subject and none of them foresee a shortage anytime in the foreseeable future as there are that many places that produce it and millions upon millions of rounds out there.
"The only real power comes out of a long rifle." - Joseph Stalin
Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.....give a man a bank and he can rob the world!.
The Pacesetter die set has a crimp die and not a neck sizing die, I was advised against crimping rounds, because of the risk of over pressure. It depends on the price.
SevenSixTwo wrote:Sounds reasonable, so should I get Pacesetter Dies + separate neck-sizing dies? Or just get the Lee Ultimate set?
It's more than just the life span of the brass. If you do a full length resize, you're resetting a fire formed case each time. I found accuracy improved considerably when just neck sizing the brass.
SevenSixTwo wrote:If I only need to neck size the first few times (and I'm not looking to maximise re-use) then I'm still thinking that a Lee Classic plus a few other bits like scales, reamers, hand priming tool) will probably do for my needs (in NATO anyway)... would anyone concur with that?
Bear in mind this is for AR, not bolt-action.
I know it's laborious with the Classic but it's for contingency; producing useable ammo, rather than any desire for super-accuracy.
HALODIN wrote:The Pacesetter die set has a crimp die and not a neck sizing die, I was advised against crimping rounds, because of the risk of over pressure. It depends on the price.
You'd have to really over crimp a round to get a serious pressure problem, all military rounds are very firmly crimped for a good reason and using the Lee factory crimp die won't over crimp the case as it can only crimp so far, it doesn't roll over the case neck at all.
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