Case trimming - thoughts on tooling and technique please

[Alpha1]

[quoteAfter an initial trim to standardize case lengths, the X-Die allows repeated full-length resizing without the case length exceeding the maximum ANSI specification. Routine trimming after each sizing is eliminated. A precision mandrel in the X-Die limits growth of the case without shortening it or causing metal build-up in the neck.

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Only problem with that is they only work if you full length resize I normally neck size that's why I use Le Wilson gear.

[Blu]

Alpha1,

Only problem with that is they only work if you full length resize I normally neck size that's why I use Le Wilson gear.

"the X-Die allows repeated full-length resizing without the case length exceeding the maximum ANSI specification. Routine trimming after each sizing is eliminated"

Hey I've necksized as well, necksized thousands of cases in my time. Even with neck sizing though the cases haven't lasted longer than the ones run through the X-Die. Put it this way mate, if these dies were just hyped up crap then I'd say so and warn people away from them. They aren't though, properly set up they eliminate the need for constant trimming along with the chamf and deburring and they are much more accurate size wise than neck sizing.

Blu

[Alpha1]

the X-Die allows repeated full-length resizing without the case length exceeding the maximum ANSI specification. Routine trimming after each sizing is eliminated"

Hey I've necksized as well, necksized thousands of cases in my time. Even with neck sizing though the cases haven't lasted longer than the ones run through the X-Die. Put it this way mate, if these dies were just hyped up crap then I'd say so and warn people away from them. They aren't though, properly set up they eliminate the need for constant trimming along with the chamf and deburring and they are much more accurate size wise than neck sizing.

I will take your word for it mate. But I will stick with my Le Wilson set up.

[Blu]

I will take your word for it mate. But I will stick with my Le Wilson set up.

Hey whatever floats your boat brother, nothing wrong with Le Wilson gear whatsoever. But you won't know until you try and when you do you'll think to yourself why the hell didn't I do this earlier. I'll bet I spend half the time on case prep than you do and believe me when I tell you I am very fussy about case size and the rest of the stuff that goes with it.

Anyway happy neck sizing and trimming to you.

Blu

[Magpie]

I use a LeWilson trimmer for all the calibers I shoot to trim and to cut the primer pockets. I have used all makes of trimmers over the years the Wilson just works. I like it a lot.

Interesting tool - not sure if this one indexes off the case shoulder or off the head. You said you've used all sorts of tools over the years. Did you ever arrive at a conclusion about shoulder or head indexing ? ie which is best or pros/cons ?

[Magpie]

I will take your word for it mate. But I will stick with my Le Wilson set up.

Hey whatever floats your boat brother, nothing wrong with Le Wilson gear whatsoever. But you won't know until you try and when you do you'll think to yourself why the hell didn't I do this earlier. I'll bet I spend half the time on case prep than you do and believe me when I tell you I am very fussy about case size and the rest of the stuff that goes with it.

Anyway happy neck sizing and trimming to you.

Blu

The x-die looks like an intersting concept, I wonder why other die manufacturers dont have a similar arrangement?
I decided a while back to standardise on redding dies as I really like them, but I must admit the idea of not having to trim at all has some attraction

I didn't want to full length size everytime either, looks like the xdie is a FLS die ? I was planning on only FLS on brass not fired from my chamber and only bumping the neck when needed and neck bushing to minimise working the brass.

Thanks for the info though - certainly food for thought. It seems there are many ways to resize cases and they all have their tradeoffs

[John MH]

This is what I use.

http://www.giraudtool.com/prod02.htm

[Magpie]

The CTL is very accurate, all my 308 brass is FLS in the same die so shoulders are consistent.

Emailed them today - not on ebay anymore now on gunbroker.com. Doesn't look like they ship internationally though - have asked them to confirm

[rox]

Doesn't look like they ship internationally though - have asked them to confirm

Easily overcome. Get a BundleBox address.

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[Magpie]

This is what I use.

http://www.giraudtool.com/prod02.htm

if only my pockets were that deep ..... smile2
would love one