Does a primed case count towards your hold limit?

[SevenSixTwo]

A Google search on this brings up many conflicting arguments, including a vague mention of case law that it does count.

Can someone clarify?

[Mr_Logic]

Not Imho but not checked the absolute law here.

[IainWR]

^ What he said.

Home Office guidance on the subject:

It will be noted
that the definition of ammunition does
not include ingredients and components
of ammunition; it is only assembled
ammunition that is controlled under the
Act, not component parts. Empty cartridge
cases, for example, are not “ammunition”.

[SevenSixTwo]

Thanks. I'm betting that NI rules are somehow different!

[Mattnall]

^ What he said.

Home Office guidance on the subject:

It will be noted
that the definition of ammunition does
not include ingredients and components
of ammunition; it is only assembled
ammunition that is controlled under the
Act, not component parts. Empty cartridge
cases, for example, are not “ammunition”.

However, there is precedence that primed cases were deemed to be ammunition when carried in a public place. At home you should be OK. I will try to find case reference.

[SevenSixTwo]

Thanks. Bear in mind we're not talking Home Office here but Northern Ireland Office. I should have clarified when I first posted.

[saddler]

^ What he said.

Home Office guidance on the subject:

It will be noted
that the definition of ammunition does
not include ingredients and components
of ammunition; it is only assembled
ammunition that is controlled under the
Act, not component parts. Empty cartridge
cases, for example, are not “ammunition”.

However, there is precedence that primed cases were deemed to be ammunition when carried in a public place. At home you should be OK. I will try to find case reference.

Any further information on this "precedence"?
Strikes me as VERY strange...what with blank rounds not needing any certification..

[Mattnall]

Any further information on this "precedence"?
Strikes me as VERY strange...what with blank rounds not needing any certification..

That depends upon what you do with them

Still looking, I have the info here somewhere.

[SevenSixTwo]

According to this: http://www.psni.police.uk/servlets31_9.pdf blank cartridges require permission so I'm guessing a primed case is viewed as the same?

No info anywhere on how many you can obtain/store...

At what stage of assembly does a round become "ammunition"?

[Sim G]

762, are primers themselves recorded on FAC? If so, then I'd see primed cases falling into this in "Norn Iron". A very different kettle of fish, the Province.