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Non fac holder on permission

#1 Post by murphwiz »

Would an FAC holder be ok to allow a non FAC holder fire his firearm in his permitted land?
I'm thinking its a big no no,but I'm told otherwise?
What say you?
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Re: Non fac holder on permission

#2 Post by IainWR »

murphwiz wrote:Would an FAC holder be ok to allow a non FAC holder fire his firearm in his permitted land?
I'm thinking its a big no no,but I'm told otherwise?
What say you?
You are told more-or-less correctly.

S16 Firearms (Amendment) Act 1988 as amended:

16 Borrowed rifles on private premises.

(1)A person of or over the age of seventeen may, without holding a firearm certificate, borrow a rifle from the occupier of private premises and use it on those premises in the presence either of the occupier or of a servant of the occupier if—

(a)the occupier or servant in whose presence it is used holds a firearm certificate in respect of that rifle; and

(b)the borrower’s possession and use of it complies with any conditions as to those matters specified in the certificate.

(2)A person who by virtue of subsection (1) above is entitled without holding a firearm certificate to borrow and use a rifle in another person’s presence may also, without holding such a certificate, purchase or acquire ammunition for use in the rifle and have it in his possession during the period for which the rifle is borrowed if—

(a)the firearm certificate held by that other person authorises the holder to have in his possession at that time ammunition for the rifle of a quantity not less than that purchased or acquired by, and in the possession of, the borrower; and

(b)the borrower’s possession and use of the ammunition complies with any conditions as to those matters specified in the certificate.


This hinges on whether you are the "occupier of private premises". Guidance states that "occupier" should hve the meaning defined in the Wildlife & Countryside Act, and that Act says that the "occupier" is one having shooting rights over the land. So if you have a right to shoot over land, yes you can lend your rifle to someone accompanying you. Note that having permission to shoot over land is not necessarily the same as having the right to.
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Re: Non fac holder on permission

#3 Post by murphwiz »

Thanks Iain!
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