And we thought the 88 and 97 Gun Bans were bad

[Mr_Logic]

watching and waiting at the moment - surely people can see that banning 'new' guns won't make a blind bit of difference to anything at all?!

I don't think we will get more controls here. I think we'll see our politicians praising American useless legislation and saying we still have tighter controls 'to ensure public safety' Yeah right!

[Jnadreth]

watching and waiting at the moment - surely people can see that banning 'new' guns won't make a blind bit of difference to anything at all?!

I don't think we will get more controls here. I think we'll see our politicians praising American useless legislation and saying we still have tighter controls 'to ensure public safety' Yeah right!

The guns we are legally allowed right now bar s/s shotguns (Criminals love taking saws to them ) are hardly ever used in crime right now. Criminals favour Pistols and revolvers and sawn off shotguns more than a bolt action rifle or high powered air rifles. Being subject to the governments whim is hardly fun...Scotland wants to restrict <12ftlb air rifles and pistols even though crime involving them is dropping quite a lot...their excuse was "better safe than sorry". I can say this about the UK laws...they do seperate firearms that have historic sporting uses from firearms that have a more ambiguous use...but its not 100% accurate (.22 target pistols like the Walther GSP banned under 1997 part 2 act). Strange they banned .22 pistols yet did not ban .22 semi auto rifles in 1988...if anything .22lr firearms are used a helluva lot for sporting and hunting and the only reason criminals would use one is if they could not get anything superior. When they say "Public Safety" they really mean "Politician Safety"...funny how 10 downing street was fortified like Fort Knox during the riots while many parts of London were left to burn.

[Chuck]

Remember when I posted on the UN Gun ban etc and some of you took the p1ss, "can't happen, won't happen, we have laws etc etc" ... not so funny now eh!

Oldbummer is knocking on the UN Gun ban door and he'll try and kick it in. I hear what my US friends say but stand by for some executive order for sure. Oh and according to Fiendstein, a Ruger 10/22 is an "assault weapon"! Of course she is a deranged bint but a dangerous one too..and SHE has a gun as does Bloomberg and his armed goons.

The UK has come on board the UN Ban idea, remember the UN are complicit time and time again in disarming the law abiding so that their governments can massacre them! Let's hope that the Americans have been reading news outside their home towns and can see the light - too many still living in denial.

I still maintain these events are just too convenient.! There have of course been positive gun stories but as usual these are covered up by the truth fearing media and their liberal catemites.

Let's hope the NRA and right thinking politicians put all these daft ban and new law ideas in the trash where they belong. Not ONE law or ban will save anyone, quite the opposite. States like Texas should tell them where to go.

[SevenSixTwo]

And on that note... Vitriol, exasperation, resignation. All in here (80+ pages): http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=118718

[SevenSixTwo]

Strange they banned .22 pistols yet did not ban .22 semi auto rifles in 1988...

It's all about concealment; hence barrel/overall minimum lengths on other platforms.

[Jnadreth]

Strange they banned .22 pistols yet did not ban .22 semi auto rifles in 1988...

It's all about concealment; hence barrel/overall minimum lengths on other platforms.

Well its caused a fair few problems recently...Parliament had to waste time and money changing the law for a few weeks in order to allow Olympic shooting, not to mention that Pistol shooters have to train abroad which is probably why the GB Pistol shooting pretty much came in last place (35th as I recall). Besides recently I read on this forum about someone getting a Mares leg lever action pistol on ticket because the commision who decides on such things called it a carbine...even though its not that hard to conceal. They banned every semi-auto...but why not .22lr? Also they didn't ban Muzzle loading revolvers which (correct me if I am wrong) are not subject to the same conditions of the LBRS/LBP's so are standard lengh and concealable...and a darn sight more powerful than .22 caliber. I just find this all very messed up wtfwtf

[SevenSixTwo]

It's bell-ends like the illiterate who created this who don't help...

https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/ ... lf-defence

I agree with a lot of the points - but it just comes across like a neanderthal's written it.

[Sim G]

Besides recently I read on this forum about someone getting a Mares leg lever action pistol on ticket because the commision who decides on such things called it a carbine...even though its not that hard to conceal.

Because the Mare's Leg conforms to the legislation on barrel length/overall length. It's not difficult to understand.



They banned every semi-auto...but why not .22lr?

Simple, at the time .22lr semi's, like .22 pump, were not regarded as the same risk as full bore semi's. Likewise, most .22 semi's were not granted for target shooting and pump rimfires only really featured in small bore galleries. You also have to remember that those of us with semi and pump full bore rifles were very few in numbers, relatively.

Also they didn't ban Muzzle loading revolvers which (correct me if I am wrong) are not subject to the same conditions of the LBRS/LBP's so are standard lengh and concealable...and a darn sight more powerful than .22 caliber. I just find this all very messed up

At the time of the pistol ban, the Muzzle Loading Association of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, aptly demonstrated that not one single crime had been committed in the UK, during the whole of the 20th century, with a M/L revolver or pistol.

[Chuck]

seven six to: the points are all worthy and are sensible... the fact that someone did it is a start since no one with better grammatical skills thought of doing it.