Future of Competition Shooting

[Chuck]

What...shoot and MOVE...oh no, how uncivilised.........No, you MUST stay in your fixed position and do it the way we have always done it.

Begone with your new fangled ideas..... practical indeed sir :lol: :lol:

[Steve E]

What...shoot and MOVE...oh no, how uncivilised.........No, you MUST stay in your fixed position and do it the way we have always done it.

Begone with your new fangled ideas..... practical indeed sir :lol: :lol:

Civilian Service Rifle is alive and kicking at Bisley and seems to be going from strength to strength. As it is based around courses of fire as laid down in PAM20 there is plenty of fire and movement. The clue is in the discipline name.
Lots of classes from classic with your .303 to all the bells and whistles with the latest AR15 straight pull. It can be run on any MoD range so can be carried out any where in the country. It just clubs to get on and do it.
Best you do some research before spouting such uninformed drivel.

[TJC]

CSR is going from strength to strength because it is more dynamic than F-Class and that's what the kids want. However, i think it could even accelerate that growth by looking at how this discipline has progressed in the US. The movement in CSR is predictable, square range based and routine. Let's be honest, it isn't exactly testing and once you've done it a couple of times it actually gets fairly boring. It is the variety and lack of routine that keeps people interested and that is what CSR is missing (but it is all we have). I know there are some good people running CSR but it isn't their full-time occupation and I do think each area of the sport should have a full-time Director who has a budget and a target to grow that discipline.

The US will always offer more and better than we can enjoy but there are lessons to be learned and some of the competitions below are for the best in class. They need not be this sophisticated, this expensive, this hard-core because these are the pinnacle of this area of the sport but the prizes and sponsorship at stake reflects the massive appeal of this sport and the grass roots interest.

All I am saying is what we have is fine...as you point out with CSR...but the rest of the world is moving forwards and UK shooting needs to as well. We need to grow the sport and that means encouraging younger members. I hate to admit it but the Americans have got it right, that's why shooting is experiencing a massive boom at a time of economic harship.

These aren't for everyone but they are massive fun imho.

Gap Grind - http://kmprecisionrifletraining.com/com ... -grind-pg/
Black Hat - http://www.bhtcorps.com/wp/?page_id=59
Thunderbeast Challenge - http://competition-dynamics.com/thunder ... enge-2012/
Score Hi - http://www.scorehi.com/SHTRC2011/
Rocky Mountain 3 Gun - http://www.rm3g.com/
Ruger Rimfire - http://www.ruger.com/micros/rugerRimfire/index.html

[techguy]

Multi-gun competitions anyone?

Speaking of which, we have some dates over on F4i for multi-gun matches for next year

Is it ok to link to it here?

http://four4islands.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=603

[shugie]

Something I've notice over the years, particularly in the .22 world, .22TR is dying, my primary rifle club in Somerset is now predominately .22 Benchrest or Sporting/gallery rifle. The shooting society at the University of Kent is entirely Sport/Gallery rifle, with some clay shooting, and looking to some service rifle shooting at Bisley and Hythe

Is that still going? I first shot Martini action .22 with them at the range on the adjacent school grounds in 1981.

[honsu]

CSR is going from strength to strength because it is more dynamic than F-Class and that's what the kids want. However, i think it could even accelerate that growth by looking at how this discipline has progressed in the US. The movement in CSR is predictable, square range based and routine. Let's be honest, it isn't exactly testing and once you've done it a couple of times it actually gets fairly boring. It is the variety and lack of routine that keeps people interested and that is what CSR is missing (but it is all we have). I know there are some good people running CSR but it isn't their full-time occupation and I do think each area of the sport should have a full-time Director who has a budget and a target to grow that discipline.

The US will always offer more and better than we can enjoy but there are lessons to be learned and some of the competitions below are for the best in class. They need not be this sophisticated, this expensive, this hard-core because these are the pinnacle of this area of the sport but the prizes and sponsorship at stake reflects the massive appeal of this sport and the grass roots interest.

All I am saying is what we have is fine...as you point out with CSR...but the rest of the world is moving forwards and UK shooting needs to as well. We need to grow the sport and that means encouraging younger members. I hate to admit it but the Americans have got it right, that's why shooting is experiencing a massive boom at a time of economic harship.

These aren't for everyone but they are massive fun imho.

Gap Grind - http://kmprecisionrifletraining.com/com ... -grind-pg/
Black Hat - http://www.bhtcorps.com/wp/?page_id=59
Thunderbeast Challenge - http://competition-dynamics.com/thunder ... enge-2012/
Score Hi - http://www.scorehi.com/SHTRC2011/
Rocky Mountain 3 Gun - http://www.rm3g.com/
Ruger Rimfire - http://www.ruger.com/micros/rugerRimfire/index.html

All those comps look like a lot of fun
As a young [29 is still young :55: ] and new to shooting this is the type of shooting I would love to do mainly with 22lr black semi autos.

As for TR not my thing I also showed some non shooting mates some video of TR all they did was take the p*** about all the gear and leather jackets [some thing to do with bondage club rejects]then I showed them a video of some PSG shooting that was posted on here they all loved it.
Also the cost of TR to get in to plays apart.




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[IainWR]

Serious question - how does the colour of the gun affect what you do?

I can hire you a Ruger 10/22 in black plastic. I can hire you the same gun in wood. The wood is lighter, has fewer bits to fall off, and doesn't rattle. Which would you prefer, and why?

I can also hire you the plastic gun in shocking pink. Is that a problem - if yes, exactly why?

Before you answer in public, remember that question at the bottom of an FAC reference form - "What do you know of the applicants attitude to firearms?"

[karen]

Mines turquoise - its pretty!

But then I am a girlie (but not a pink girlie like Heather :lol: )

Love

Karen

[Christel]

Colour is very important, it is all to do with how you feel on the firing point.

Same goes for reloading or not, some do it because it makes them feel better about shooting.

[karen]

In the NSRA Shop http://www.nsrashop.co.uk/acatalog/Firearms.html (10% discount till Xmas on everything except ammo and targets) we have .22 Colt M4 Carbines and M4 OPS in black. they look very militaristic. We sell LOADS!

Some people come in, head straight for them ignoring everything else, fondle them a bit and usually don't buy them.

Some people come in and complain they shouldn't even be on display!

Who cares! They are just guns and as long as people buy them and have fun with them its all good.

Personally I have fired lots of different military rifles - I enjoyed it at the time but dont feel the need to do it again.

Practical anything doesn't appeal to me personally due to the fact that I originally picked a lying down sport for a reason :lol:

I prefer (in order) MR (although I'm not any good but its more comfortable), TR (my main discipline), Speed Steels (fun, fun, fun!) and anything else you care to let me have a go at. I expect I would love F Class if I had all the kit and someone to carry it for me. Sometimes I might be good at something, sometimes I might not be but as long as I enjoy it then thats all that matters.

love

karen