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Gap behind gun cabinet - suggestions?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:00 am
by Blackstuff
OK so moved in ‘properly’ to my new house and put the gun cabinet in. Problem is it’s a 70’s Barratt house so theres not a straight wall in the thing! :roll: Cabinet is flush with the solid wall its mounted to, but there’s a gap down the back and side;

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Now, as anyone with a grasp on reality knows, even if the safe was perfectly flush up to the wall a determined thief could easily hammer a jemmy into the wall to get it behind the cabinet to lever it off. However, we’re dealing with “I’ve read the ‘rule-book’” PSCOs here so what are you suggestions to fill in the gaps? I was thinking of just putting some wooden batons/beading around the outer edge – Suggestions?

Re: Gap behind gun cabinet - suggestions?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:29 am
by Polchraine
First thoughts.

Batten/beading round the edge will be easily removed

Remove cabinet from wall, cut a cabinet sized piece of 12mm marine ply sheet with some thin scribed battens behind it and screw to the to the wall with as many screws as you can before squirting some expanding form into the gap. Then fix the cabinet through the board to the wall and also fix to the floor. Possibly add some extra fixings to the back. That would make it even harder to remove.

An alternative - find a local sheet metal company and get some 10 or 12 Gauge stainless steel in a 20x40 right angle, maybe welded together to form a single piece all round cover for the gap but it would need to bend. Fit this with the wall with the flats behind the cabinet so that the countersunk screws cannot be accessed.

Re: Gap behind gun cabinet - suggestions?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:42 am
by Blackstuff
Umm, any other suggestions that won't cost £££ and i can do tonight?? :lol:

Thanks for the suggestions but as the wall behind the safe is a simple plasterboard wall it could simply be chopped out.

To be honest i've seen many gun cabinets that are just bolted to an open wall or inside an MDF cabinet that would offer no realistic protection (as this cabinet was previously) so i think i'm worrying about nothing. Any lever put behind the cabinet would tear through the plasterboard before exerting any pressure on the cabinet

EDIT: its fixed from the side BTW and is flush on that wall

Re: Gap behind gun cabinet - suggestions?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:45 am
by shugie
One of the adhesive/sealants like Gripfill or No Nails might help?

Re: Gap behind gun cabinet - suggestions?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:19 am
by Polchraine
Get some 20x20 Stainless steel angle - - 16g or so. Tap part way behind and then squirt in some contact adhesive, gripfill or silicon sealant then tap fully home ensuring it is against the wall.

Re: Gap behind gun cabinet - suggestions?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:45 am
by Blackstuff
I need to be able to remove the cabinet without destroying the wall so i think sticking angle iron onto the back of the safe would be the best option so far :good:

Re: Gap behind gun cabinet - suggestions?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:51 am
by Polchraine
Blackstuff wrote:I need to be able to remove the cabinet without destroying the wall so i think sticking angle iron onto the back of the safe would be the best option so far :good:

It will just need a small bead down the internal angle. Find a local sheet metal company and get them to bend it - probably cheaper than a DIY shed.

Re: Gap behind gun cabinet - suggestions?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:01 pm
by Sim G
The standard of fixings already, is the cabinet solid against the wall and floor? If you give it a good tug, does it move? If not, fill the gap with decorators caulk and paint it the same colour as the wall.

Re: Gap behind gun cabinet - suggestions?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:55 pm
by Blackstuff
Yes its 10mm rawl plugged (sleeved bolts*) to the solid wall and is flush against it. There are 10mm screws into the floorboards and i also put in some plugs through the back of the safe into the plasterboard so if someone did try to pry it basically the hold back wall of the room and floor would come down on them! Theres no movement on the cabinet whatsoever

*Similar to these http://www.tooled-up.com/brandsubcat/ra ... /raw1/778/

Re: Gap behind gun cabinet - suggestions?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:56 pm
by Sim G
Then Mark, simple. Fill the gap and paint it.