Airbrush wrote:I think after the latest ban you're being naive, respectfully.38Super wrote:I'd respectfully like to disagree with you on this.Airbrush wrote: I agree, any innovation in firearm cycling/rate of fire is doomed now. The SGC would eventually be banned because it is box fed unlike traditional tube fed lever actions.
I didn't follow the LR case that carefully as to the real reasons behind the ban but a high rate of fire was definitely mentioned. As we know a skilled shooter with a Lee Enfield and stripper clips or a straight pull AR can put out high sustained rates of fire and Cowboy Action shooters can empty a lever action in an amazingly short space of time. To my knowledge there has been nothing like the same reaction to these (or was there?).
Would a lever action version of an M1 carbine for example be viewed the same as a lever 'release' version? The possible ROF of either would be almost identical.
Is it more about looks or that 'normal' lever action is really only suitable for pistol calibre cartridges? If you put a lever action M1 carbine in front of a journalist would they relax and call it a "Winchester" or get all excited and call it an "AR15" because it's an assault rifle?
The lever release mechanism was frowned upon by the police from it's inception as treading too close to the 'self loading' line and the double trigger pull version was a step too far. I don't believe that doesn't mean that we don't have room to innovate using the existing mechanisms that everyone is happy with.
Regardless of the above, one of the biggest factors was numbers of shooters and national support.
lever release and mars rifles haven't been all that common, and no national body really stood up in their defence, however .50 cal and other "high energy" rifles that were in the same proposal didnt get banned, the main reason being that a lot more people wrote in to support removing them from the OWB as well as multiple bodies.
They will really struggle to ban lever actions at this point, though they could always try go down a route of a detachable magazine ban or magazine limit.
though the next thing on the chopping block seems to be the .50 cal still which was supposed to be reviewed to try and reintroduce the ban.