Survey on rare caliber ammunition - unmet need

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Re: Survey on rare caliber ammunition - unmet need

#11 Post by Sim G »

450 Martini wrote: Yes very much so. I had a conversation with a dealer last year who intended to get 577-450 put back into production as he thought it would be a good money spinner. I pointed out that it would make him rather unpopular as all of those section 58 Martini-Henry rifles would probably revert to Section 1. Most who take the time to shoot these old beasts would just be happy with decent cases and availability of moulds and dies.

There are plenty of ammo producers who really don't give a monkeys chuff about the UK's s58. Currently there are a fair few cartridges on that "obsolete list" being newly manufactured now. The Sword of Damocles hangs over this category as it is....
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#12 Post by chdehnhardt »

Dear all,

I would like to renew my invtation to take part in our survey. At the same time, I thank those forum members who already have.
Prelim findings: apparently home reloading is the British approach to tackle this issue. Still very interested to find out which rare calibres are in demand in the UK

Cheers,

Christoph

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https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1lfWsqs ... K0G9Y/edit
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#13 Post by FredB »

i shoot obsolete calibres almost exclusively. I don't want factory ammo and i don't know any of my fellow shooters of antiques who do. What we do want is a good supply of obsolete calibre brass at good prices and also obsolete calibre dies. In other words, european competitors to Bertram and C4HD.
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#14 Post by mag41uk »

FredB wrote:i shoot obsolete calibres almost exclusively. I don't want factory ammo and i don't know any of my fellow shooters of antiques who do. What we do want is a good supply of obsolete calibre brass at good prices and also obsolete calibre dies. In other words, european competitors to Bertram and C4HD.
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There used to be a company called Le Hussard in France that made obsolete caliber brass.
And another maker called Lynx HR who made brass and dies.
There is a list of them in my Vectan manual.
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#15 Post by IainWR »

To all who have indicated that making obsolete calibres available is fraught with downstream problems, well done. Remanufacturing these things would, under UK law, be a complete car crash. Please explain this to anyone thinking of doing or dealing in these.
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chdehnhardt wrote:Dear all,

I would like to renew my invtation to take part in our survey. At the same time, I thank those forum members who already have.
Prelim findings: apparently home reloading is the British approach to tackle this issue. Still very interested to find out which rare calibres are in demand in the UK

Cheers,

Christoph

Study link:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1lfWsqs ... K0G9Y/edit
You are wasting your time no body in the UK would support this venture. It would cause us massive licencing problems.
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#17 Post by dromia »

Only to those who collect section 58, the rest of the shooting "community" wouldn't give a flying feck.
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dromia wrote:Only to those who collect section 58, the rest of the shooting "community" wouldn't give a flying feck.
Unfortunately too true.
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#19 Post by mag41uk »

The man is wasting his time. There is no tangible market and no profit to be made but plenty of aggravation to be stirred up.
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