Hornady M beam scales problem.

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Re: Hornady M beam scales problem.

#21 Post by mag41uk »

Alpha1 wrote:So were are you getting these thousands of 139g scenars Jeff.
I have been getting 1k boxes of lapua from Sportsmans Gun Centre.
Fortunately I got loads a few year back when they were £290 delivered!
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#22 Post by Geek »

mag41uk wrote:
Alpha1 wrote:So were are you getting these thousands of 139g scenars Jeff.
I have been getting 1k boxes of lapua from Sportsmans Gun Centre.
Fortunately I got loads a few year back when they were £290 delivered![/quo

I bought 400 from Fox Firearms (Diggle range).
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#23 Post by ukrifleman »

I always zero my Redding No. 2 scale first, then dial up the charge setting and then verify with check weights before throwing powder.
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ukrifleman wrote:I always zero my Redding No. 2 scale first, then dial up the charge setting and then verify with check weights before throwing powder.
I just check weigh a couple of bullets on a calibrated laboratory scale at work and use those to calibrate my scale after zeroing it. I don't have any check weights in grains.
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#25 Post by Alpha1 »

Still not happy with this Hornady scale.
I zeroed it tonight set it at 34.5 grains set up my target master trickler.
I dropped a charge from my RCBS powder measure under 34.5grains popped it in the pan and set the trickier away it stopped at 34.5grains on the beam. I did 50 rounds then checked them on an electronic scale after zeroing it and checking it with a 50gram check weight. I then measured the powder charges they all came out at 35.5 grains a full-grain over what the Hornady beam scale indicated. It's a good job I checked and that the charge does not exceed the maximum in the Vit reloading data. But I'm puzzled as to what's going on.
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#26 Post by 1066 »

Looks like there's a problem with that scale Alpha. Most problems on the "M" type are in the panhanger area. The short length of threaded rod that holds the adjustable tare nuts also holds the small knife edge for the pan stirrup in place, if that has loosened at any time the knife edges may well have rotated a little. If so, just slacken off the threaded rod lock nut and reset the knife edge vertical.

Unlike the RCBS and many other scales the main knife edges "self centre" and rotate on fixed bearings so are almost trouble free unless there's an obvious burr. The stirrup also "self centres" on the pan hanger knife edges so as long as it's not bent out of shape shouldn't give much trouble. Also worth having a look to see it there is any movement on the copper damping plate, it's riveted to the beam and obviously shouldn't move. While you're at that end shine a torch in the damping slot to check for fine wire wool hairs that have been attracted to the damping magnet.
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#27 Post by Alpha1 »

1066 wrote:Looks like there's a problem with that scale Alpha. Most problems on the "M" type are in the panhanger area. The short length of threaded rod that holds the adjustable tare nuts also holds the small knife edge for the pan stirrup in place, if that has loosened at any time the knife edges may well have rotated a little. If so, just slacken off the threaded rod lock nut and reset the knife edge vertical.

Unlike the RCBS and many other scales the main knife edges "self centre" and rotate on fixed bearings so are almost trouble free unless there's an obvious burr. The stirrup also "self centres" on the pan hanger knife edges so as long as it's not bent out of shape shouldn't give much trouble. Also worth having a look to see it there is any movement on the copper damping plate, it's riveted to the beam and obviously shouldn't move. While you're at that end shine a torch in the damping slot to check for fine wire wool hairs that have been attracted to the damping magnet.
Unfortunately, after many years of use, I have lost all confidence in this beam scale. I'm going to have to replace it I think. I'm not happy using it again.
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