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#1 Post by **Chuck** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:11 am

Accidents waiting to happen - or are they just a Darwinism waiting their moment??

Mall Team 6 in action.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015 ... Newsletter

Definitely NOT to be tried at home, or anywhere else.

This sums it up:

https://www.google.com.tr/?gfe_rd=cr&ei ... le+episode

#2 Post by **Blackstuff** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:20 am

Given the amount of spall off the popper i'd say it was one of those bullets that turns to powder on impact that can be used point blank. Still not sure why any kind of live round needed to be used of course. The 'drill' could've as easily been carried out with a blank firer/airsoft pistol.

When i did some martial arts training a LONG time ago one of the sub-instructors was obsessed with drills against someone with a pistol, with his favourite technique being jamming a finger in the hammer to stop it firing. He wasn't impressed the day i brought a Glock 17 blank firer in and it going click while pointed at his head in front of the class

#3 Post by **Chuck** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:05 am

All those folks forget that pistols will fire - grabbing the slide is not going to stop the first shot -and may not even stop the slide. And yes, Glocks etc present a whole new problem

Agreed may have been using frangibles but every safety rule has just been broken! These "drills always assume the assailant hasn't a clue and stands too close to his victim.

These things may be OK for party tricks and really Elite forces who get paid to take risks but for Joe Public?????

#4 Post by **TattooedGun** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:18 pm

more to the point, who draws and pulls a gun on someone without a round in the chamber like this...?

#5 Post by **froggy** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:00 pm

All those folks forget that pistols will fire - grabbing the slide is not going to stop the first shot -and may not even stop the slide. And yes, Glocks etc present a whole new problem
Grabbing the slide does not prevent the shot being fired but does prevent the pistol to cycle, thus preventing a second shot, glock included.

#6 Post by **TattooedGun** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:01 pm

froggy wrote: All those folks forget that pistols will fire - grabbing the slide is not going to stop the first shot -and may not even stop the slide. And yes, Glocks etc present a whole new problem
Grabbing the slide does not prevent the shot being fired but does prevent the pistol to cycle, thus preventing a second shot, glock included.

I still wanna try it...

Clarification: Not whilst standing in front of it...!!

#7 Post by **froggy** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:23 pm

You do it from the side & never of course face the barrel. All the 4 safety rules are scrupulously respected & enforced. You then practice with airsoft & protection .
I think the next "Shooting & Krav Maga" class is planned early autumn if you are tempted

#8 Post by **TattooedGun** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:42 pm

froggy wrote:You do it from the side & never of course face the barrel. All the 4 safety rules are scrupulously respected & enforced. You then practice with airsoft & protection .
I think the next "Shooting & Krav Maga" class is planned early autumn if you are tempted

I am, however I have no money (too many holidays) or time free from work :(

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